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    God's clearly and CONSISTENTLY homicidal and vindictive in the OT......

    without the phony "Oh, but He's nice NOW" contradiction of the NT.


    So on "consistency"....if nothing else? Judaism does have a leg up on Christianity where the "Biblical God" is concerned.....

    but that's weak soup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    It's amazing what some will say...no regard for how ridiculous they look as they speak out loudly from a position of complete ignorance.
    ...and, yet, you go ahead, and post anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    ...and, yet, you go ahead, and post anyway...
    The fact carpe saw no irony and hypocrisy in his post.....


    was actually not a surprise at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    if still portraying him as a violent, genocidal tribalist.

    Judaism avoids the "God is Stalin one minute....Gandhi the next" problems with Christianity.

    BUT it still depicts God as a totally unlikeable character, evil, capricious, and bloodthirsty (unless of course, you're one of his "Chosen People").
    Israel is defined by some as meaning to strive both for and against God.

    Perhaps that is why Jewry ranges from fundamental literalists to atheists and Karaite Jews who are close to Gnostic Christians and who also put man above God.

    Midrash allows for actual discussions and even blasphemy if one choses to in order to try to dither out what God is all about.

    All religions that have a hell in their theologies are basically stuck with seeing their Gods as pricks because only a prick of a God would punish us for sins in a finite time for eternity.

    That is not any form of justice as it exceeds an eye for an eye by a long shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    It's amazing what some will say...no regard for how ridiculous they look as they speak out loudly from a position of complete ignorance.
    Our friend is expressing something like what this movie did. If yours was just an old grudge kneejerk reaction then you need not answer my question.

    Do you think this clip to be ridiculous or is it showing how we should all judge.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Regarding the parenthetical phrase above, the Jews were "chosen" to get crapped on by God worse than most.
    Indeed.

    Christian scapegoating knows no bounds.

    That is what you get for letting Rome write your Gospels.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJgvws0ZYUE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Israel is defined by some as meaning to strive both for and against God.
    Didn't find sense in this sentence
    Perhaps that is why Jewry ranges from fundamental literalists to atheists and Karaite Jews who are close to Gnostic Christians and who also put man above God.
    Judaism doesn't put man above God.
    Midrash allows for actual discussions and even blasphemy if one choses to in order to try to dither out what God is all about.
    Judaism doesn't allow blasphemy in any form.
    All religions that have a hell in their theologies are basically stuck with seeing their Gods as pricks because only a prick of a God would punish us for sins in a finite time for eternity.
    Irrelevant. There is no eternal afterlife punishment in Judaism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    God's clearly and CONSISTENTLY homicidal and vindictive in the OT......

    without the phony "Oh, but He's nice NOW" contradiction of the NT.


    So on "consistency"....if nothing else? Judaism does have a leg up on Christianity where the "Biblical God" is concerned.....

    but that's weak soup.
    After hundreds of years of occupation, exile, and war, there had to be a few rabbis who saw the benefits of a gentle man-god. A prince of peace who had to suffer to fulfil the prophecy of the messiah.

    This spiritual harmony of accord would mean that we are no longer the enemy of god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Our friend is expressing something like what this movie did. If yours was just an old grudge kneejerk reaction then you need not answer my question.

    Do you think this clip to be ridiculous or is it showing how we should all judge.

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    Forget carpe, Gnostic.

    Like many Christians....he NEVER examines his beliefs with any critical thought, and thus just does a knee-jerk "Neener-neener" when asked to defend them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by font View Post
    Didn't find sense in this sentence
    Jacob fought hard against God's angel before submitting.

    He went from striving against God to striving for God.

    Judaism doesn't put man above God.
    Karaite Jews do. The oral Torah tradition to them, can override anything the written Torah gives.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaite_Judaism

    Judaism doesn't allow blasphemy in any form.
    I don't care. It is a stupid restriction. Any time a Karaite Jew overrules the written information, it is likely thought to be blasphemy. So who is to say what blasphemy is.

    Irrelevant. There is no eternal afterlife punishment in Judaism.
    True. They, generally speaking, are too intelligent to believe in superstitious nonsense and the supernatural, although their right wing are as loony as any right wing religion.

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