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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    I'm only going by what he actually said and did in the Gospels. Not extending it to what he WOULD think.

    The only things that ever angered him were money lending (meaning applying interest to money), hypocracy and being judgemental in calling out sin, even insulting others for some sin, while being blind to ones own. That's the only things that ever angered him.
    It was not the lending of money it was MONEY CHANGERS You see you could not use, Roman money to pay for the doves to be used as a sacirifice or to give as your tithe. (it had a graven image on the coins, Ceaser) (That is where jesus said RENDER unto Ceaser what is Ceasers render unto God what is God's, they would exchange the Gold coins that were acceptable for being uses for offerings, But they used Scales that had weights that were inaccurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    I see religions, and their male Gods of war, which were basically hand in glove with governments as having gifted us with more like 5,000 years of war.

    Before the Bronze age, for the previous 20,000 years, the Goddesses ruled in peace and did not even fortify their cities. There was no need to until we developed the metal weapons that made killing each other so much easier.

    As to Jesus, we may never know as he is likely just a fictional mythical character.

    Biblically speaking, he curse some and I cannot see Jesus not hating those he cursed.

    Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

    Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

    Further, if Jesus, as God, can condemn anyone to hell for eternity for a finite sin, then he will likely haver hate in his heart for those poor abused souls.

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    When you read about the philosophy that Jesus preached, it's pretty hard to make him out to be a god of war, but people seem to have had no trouble doing so.

    The Roman Empire was Christianized when god (according to Constantine) showed a cross in the sky and said the he, Constantine would have victory in battle if he fought under that symbol. The battle was won, the empire was Christianized, and the religion spread from there to the far reaches of the empire and, after the European exploration, to the Americas.

    And, those old time Christians weren't just going door to door with pamphlets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    It was not the lending of money it was MONEY CHANGERS You see you could not use, Roman money to pay for the doves to be used as a sacirifice or to give as your tithe. (it had a graven image on the coins, Ceaser) (That is where jesus said RENDER unto Ceaser what is Ceasers render unto God what is God's, they would exchange the Gold coins that were acceptable for being uses for offerings, But they used Scales that had weights that were inaccurate.
    I didn't know that. Interesting.

    Although what actually made him "mad"was the doing it in the temple.

    So yeah, fair enough:

    Hypocracy, judging others, and using a temple as a place to make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Jesus hates sin, Loves people. Children do things their parents do not like but Parents don't hate their Children, and they push for them to strive to do the right thing at all times,
    So Jesus is a substitute for daddy....if Jesus loved people he wouldn't let babies die of starvation when he has the power to make rain.

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    No, Jesus isn't the guy who makes it rain.

    Jesus is the guy who said that when a child is starving we are to give it food. Even if we don't feel like the brat deserved it, or we feel like his Dad wouldn't help me if I was starving, or if his dad once DIDNT feed me when I was starving, or if his mum was slutty, or any number of other things that might stop me from sharing food.

    Jesus told us the answer for "what's in it for me" and "why should I"

    Because it nurtures your own soul, and it is why God put us here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    So Jesus is a substitute for daddy....if Jesus loved people he wouldn't let babies die of starvation when he has the power to make rain.
    a man with the initials are JRA is my daddy, God is my creator. he doesn't let them starve YOU AND I DO.. What have YOU done to help those starving Babies YOU want to blame God for..

    This is why Christians Give, Go, and Feed in nations where there are Famine, Little water, little medical Care many times at great risk to their own lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Jesus seems to hate some things. ...
    Perhaps "gnostic christian bishops" (=godless atheists) - ¿whatelse?

    Last edited by zaangalewa; 30th April 2017 at 01:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    ... Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

    Jesus seems to be saying that he is promoting division and war with a number of his sayings that pit father against son and brother against brother.

    Jesus advocated division, war and hate; even as some think he preached to love our enemies.

    Did Jesus hate and is hate thus a good character trait?

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    War and hate? What about to learn to read the bible?

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    Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    So Jesus is a substitute for daddy....if Jesus loved people he wouldn't let babies die of starvation when he has the power to make rain.
    Do you need a screwdriver for the adjustment of the gear wheels in your machine mind? You know on your own that you speak a gigantic bullshit to say so - but you do it. Why? Do you really think all Christians in the last 2000 years were idiots but now comes the atheistic prophet and witch hunter Isalexi and heals everyone from the stupidities Isalexi thinks about them?

    Last edited by zaangalewa; 30th April 2017 at 02:03 AM.

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    The thing about Christianity is, firstly the Bible was written by men, then translated by men from one language into another, finally into Latin, then into modern languages. It's open to interpretation.

    Secondly, not everyone in the past calling themselves Christians actually were. Think about the Crusades and the Inquisition, for example.

    And thirdly, not everyone who calls themselves Christian today actually are Christians.

    and finally, power corrupts. When a Christian, even a real one, finds themselves in power, they're often corrupted.

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