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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Jesus hates sin, Loves people. Children do things their parents do not like but Parents don't hate their Children, and they push for them to strive to do the right thing at all times,
    Parents do not condemn those they love to eternal hell and death.

    If Jesus hated sin and loved the sinner, why does he let sin exist while ending the existence of the sinner?

    Why, in a sense, does Jesus/God burn the leaves of a tree while allowing the tree to produce more leaves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    I'm only going by what he actually said and did in the Gospels. Not extending it to what he WOULD think.
    Can you hate rape and love the one raping you?

    1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

    What Jesus would think can be extrapolated by what he said and did.

    The only things that ever angered him were money lending (meaning applying interest to money), hypocracy and being judgemental in calling out sin, even insulting others for some sin, while being blind to ones own. That's the only things that ever angered him.
    So slavery did not bother Jesus. Ok.

    Are slave owners following the Golden Rule that Jesus preached? I do not think so, so why do you think Jesus would not be bothered by people breaking what he said was his number two commandment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The thing about Christianity is, firstly the Bible was written by men, then translated by men from one language into another, finally into Latin, then into modern languages. It's open to interpretation.

    Secondly, not everyone in the past calling themselves Christians actually were. Think about the Crusades and the Inquisition, for example.
    Catholics were and are Christians. It could be by the way a good idea to try to learn something about the real history of the wars of the Franks and the burning of witches.

    And thirdly, not everyone who calls themselves Christian today actually are Christians.
    Not? Sometimes our enemies call themselves Christians, because they like to fight in this way against us - but who else? Why?

    and finally, power corrupts. When a Christian, even a real one, finds themselves in power, they're often corrupted.
    So if Christians in power are corrupt - who else should be in power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    When you read about the philosophy that Jesus preached, it's pretty hard to make him out to be a god of war, but people seem to have had no trouble doing so.

    The Roman Empire was Christianized when god (according to Constantine) showed a cross in the sky and said the he, Constantine would have victory in battle if he fought under that symbol. The battle was won, the empire was Christianized, and the religion spread from there to the far reaches of the empire and, after the European exploration, to the Americas.

    And, those old time Christians weren't just going door to door with pamphlets.
    Seems we have no argument my friend.

    We should not forget what is prophesized when Jesus returns.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    I didn't know that. Interesting.

    Although what actually made him "mad"was the doing it in the temple.

    So yeah, fair enough:

    Hypocracy, judging others, and using a temple as a place to make money.
    Yet all religions use the temples. churches and mosques to make money. Have you noted the huge and gaudy edifices that religions spend on their own aggrandisement?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    No, Jesus isn't the guy who makes it rain.

    Jesus is the guy who said that when a child is starving we are to give it food. Even if we don't feel like the brat deserved it, or we feel like his Dad wouldn't help me if I was starving, or if his dad once DIDNT feed me when I was starving, or if his mum was slutty, or any number of other things that might stop me from sharing food.

    Jesus told us the answer for "what's in it for me" and "why should I"

    Because it nurtures your own soul, and it is why God put us here.
    Have you looked and thought about that ---- "what's in it for me" , --- in terms of God saying it?

    If you do, you will see that it does not put your God in the best light.



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    Quote Originally Posted by zaangalewa View Post
    Perhaps "gnostic christian bishops" (=godless atheists) - ¿whatelse?
    My God is real. Your God is a genocidal son murdering prick.

    I am here to compare my God's morals to yours. Are you ready to do so?

    Your link did not work but I put up a couple above that you might look at from a moral standpoint and opine as to the satanic morals you see emanating from your vile demiurge.

    Further.

    "Catholics were and are Christians."

    Jesus said that anyone who actually believed in him would be able to do as he did and more.

    If you or anyone else here is a real Christian, what are you waiting for to save the world?

    I suggest that, according to Jesus' own words and standards, that you nor anyone else here are real believers in Jesus.

    Prove me and Jesus wrong.

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    I hate this thread so, in my case, hate is good because this thread chews the root.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaangalewa View Post
    Catholics were and are Christians. It could be by the way a good idea to try to learn something about the real history of the wars of the Franks and the burning of witches.



    Not? Sometimes our enemies call themselves Christians, because they like to fight in this way against us - but who else? Why?



    So if Christians in power are corrupt - who else should be in power?

    No one should have unchecked power. That's why our Constitution was written the way it was, to limit the power of any one person.

    As for who is Christian, I think you'd be hard pressed to maintain that the perpetrators of the Inquisition were actually Christian. Not everyone is what they say they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Seems we have no argument my friend.

    We should not forget what is prophesized when Jesus returns.



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    Yep. There have been leaders telling people, "Hey, I speak for God, and if you're not doing what I say, you'd better watch out when Christ comes again!"

    It's part of the power corrupts principle.
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