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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Are you talking of the many times God is shown to kill when he could have taken the moral high ground and cure instead of kill, even to the point of genocide?

    If not, give an example please.

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    God knows the future. He knows the results of His actions before He takes them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Meyers View Post
    God knows the future. He knows the results of His actions before He takes them.
    That is quite the assumption.
    How can you know that when God, according to your dogma, is unknowable and unfathomable?

    But lets investigate that all knowingness.

    Why then did he create Satan?

    Why did he create mankind if he knew he would repent for doing so?

    Why did he use genocide and kill when he could just as easily cured instead of kill?

    Do try to answer that this time instead of deflecting. You look hypocritical and I would not want people to think you are of that ilk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    No, it was a question>....

    Let me ask it again..

    What Race of people did JESUS tell you to exterminate?

    if the answer is none then I don't worship a God that promotes genocide.
    ?? That doesn't make sense.

    If Jesus did say go out and exterminate a race of people, that would be ordering genocide.
    If the answer is none, then Jesus didn't say go out and exterminate anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    ?? That doesn't make sense.

    If Jesus did say go out and exterminate a race of people, that would be ordering genocide.
    If the answer is none, then Jesus didn't say go out and exterminate anyone.
    If you see Jesus as a man and not a part of the Trinity, you are correct.

    If you see Jesus as holy and a part of the Trinity, then you must admit that he, as Yahweh used and ordered genocide.

    How do you see Jesus? Man only or a part of the demonstrably immoral Godhead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    If you see Jesus as a man and not a part of the Trinity, you are correct.

    If you see Jesus as holy and a part of the Trinity, then you must admit that he, as Yahweh used and ordered genocide.

    How do you see Jesus? Man only or a part of the demonstrably immoral Godhead?

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    I misread Tnvolunteer's post. This morning, it makes sense.

    If Jesus and Yawheh or any of the gods mankind has invented over the centuries are real, and if there really is life after death, then we'll know after we die. Meanwhile, there's no point in speculation. I don't know, and neither does anyone else on this forum (or this planet, I suspect.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I misread Tnvolunteer's post. This morning, it makes sense.

    If Jesus and Yawheh or any of the gods mankind has invented over the centuries are real, and if there really is life after death, then we'll know after we die. Meanwhile, there's no point in speculation. I don't know, and neither does anyone else on this forum (or this planet, I suspect.)
    This is true, but are the Gods we have invented moral?

    Focus in on Allah and Yahweh in your reply please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    This is true, but are the Gods we have invented moral?

    Focus in on Allah and Yahweh in your reply please.

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    It depends on which part of the Bible you read, and how you interpret ancient writings that have been translated from dead languages.

    Feeding the hungry and clothing the poor are certainly moral activities.

    Inviting the homeless into your home is moral, but a bit na´ve.

    Smiting and enslaving, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It depends on which part of the Bible you read, and how you interpret ancient writings that have been translated from dead languages.

    Feeding the hungry and clothing the poor are certainly moral activities.

    Inviting the homeless into your home is moral, but a bit na´ve.

    Smiting and enslaving, not so much.
    Yet that last is the ultimate aim of Yahweh who demands obedience and Allah who demands submission.

    It seems that both those Gods want slave nations or empires. That of course is tyranny.

    Are tyrants good or evil?

    I would say evil. Especially when both tyrants says, do things my way are be hell bound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Yet that last is the ultimate aim of Yahweh who demands obedience and Allah who demands submission.

    It seems that both those Gods want slave nations or empires. That of course is tyranny.

    Are tyrants good or evil?

    I would say evil. Especially when both tyrants says, do things my way are be hell bound.

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    You have put your finger on the reason why separation of church and state is so important. Nations in which Allah controls the government are indeed very close to being slave states. They certainly tend to the tyrannical. The majority Christian nations are much more free, specifically because the churches wield less political power.

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