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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    So this one god gave the message to different cultures in a way that this omnipotent god knew would get twisted by the different people who he gave it to?
    Mr. RNG,

    Exactly, atheists are shallow thinkers and don't look at things from a historical and cultural sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    I never said a word about how people see things. I question how God presented himself. We are left withonly two options:

    1 - God presented himself differently to both groups, or
    2 - God presented himself the same way to both groups, but was perceived differently.

    If the former, then God intentionally created confusion, and conflict with his own worshippers. If the latter, then neither can be trusted to have an accurate perception of God, as both are human, and equally unreliable in the interpretations of their personal perceptions.
    Mr. Czernobog,

    Exactly atheist refuse to look at things from an historical and cultural sense, instead pretending to see things anachronistically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. RNG,

    Exactly, atheists are shallow thinkers and don't look at things from a historical and cultural sense.
    I would look at that as a weakness in the supposedly omnipotent god rather than shallow thinking on the part of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Czernobog,

    Exactly atheist refuse to look at things from an historical and cultural sense, instead pretending to see things anachronistically.
    So your omnipotent god didn't know things would change with time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    I would look at that as a weakness in the supposedly omnipotent god rather than shallow thinking on the part of others.
    Mr. RNG,

    Yes, I did noticed that in response to my lengthy and well thought out thesis, you simply said "nah uh."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    So your omnipotent god didn't know things would change with time?
    Mr. RNG,

    I can't speak for the Lord, but I can speak for reality. Unlike atheists, Christians know things change.

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    Mr. RNG, Mr. Czernobog,

    I know it's not possible to fill your empty souls with thought, so lets leave it with a joke:

    A guy walks into a bar. How do you know he's an atheist?

    Because within five minutes, he will have told everyone there and tried to convert them....

    Ba-dump-bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Czernobog,

    Exactly atheist refuse to look at things from an historical and cultural sense, instead pretending to see things anachronistically.
    I'm not pretending anything. The two possibilities are the only two available. If you have a third alternative, by all means present it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. RNG,

    Yes, I did noticed that in response to my lengthy and well thought out thesis, you simply said "nah uh."
    Well, it was lengthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    [T]he G-d of Isreal, and the G-d of Christianity are, essentially, the same Go-d. Ian mentioned the "triune" nature of the Christians G-d, however, that difference only exists because Christians belive that the Messiah has already come, and Jews do not.
    That is not true. The Jewish messiah will be a fully human being, and in no way a deity or demi-deity of any kind, much less a part or aspect of G-d. This is expressly distinct from the Xian concept of a trinitarian entity.

    Of course, there are (I believe) Xian sects that do not believe in the trinity, and in that case their conception of G-d probably more approximates the Jewish one, in which event they and the Islamic G-d are all the same basic idea, differ as they might in other areas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    The actual G-d (the G-dhead, hif you will), is essentially the same, which is why Christians include the Old Testament in their Bible - to demonstrate the nature of the G-d they worship.
    Yet they assert a G-d of a nature not described in the Tanakh.

    (Of course, this is all an aside as to the question of the compare/contrast between the Xian and Islamic versions of G-d.)

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