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    Can a billion people be wrong?

    Not the exact number, nobody knows how many actually believe in God or what God but many, many do and many of those now gone did.

    Were we and are we all wrong, are we looking for something, that seems like quite a need if that is so.

    Are we all so insecure that we need to invent a God to comfort us?

    Or maybe have we tapped into something that the rest of you are missing?

    If you sit in a room with your classmates and get asked a question you have a better chance of getting it right with the more voices you have that can answer rather then answering it by yourself.

    Its a simple question, can so many of us be wrong, all with different histories, different beliefs, different upbringings........yet we believe in God, whatever name you give Him.

    There are insecure people that believe in God, drug addicts, poor people, losers, rich folk, white, black, brown and yellow, those that have lived blessed lives and those that have suffered. How can we all, coming from such different backgrounds, believe in the same thing. I may be pushing a shopping cart and believe in God and that rich man in that house still believes in the same God so why is that?

    Should the poor man resent the rich man, should the rich man feel guilty about the poor man?

    Maybe, but the point remains that they still both believe in God.

    Neither fear death nor do they embrace it yet they both know where they are going when it does happen yet they are so different?

    All over the world this carries on, with no rhyme or reason and there has never, in the history of mankind, been a phenomenon like a belief in God so does that not make it unique and something worth considering?

    Can a billion of us be wrong?

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    For most of human history, most humans believed in a creation story and gods. Were they all right?

    How does one judge the rightness or wrongness in a story and belief?

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    At one point the entire population of the Earth believed it was flat, how could they be wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    At one point the entire population of the Earth believed it was flat, how could they be wrong?
    A myth. First of all: the world, the universe in this case, is flat. It follows the mathematics of Euclid where a triangle has 180 - even if this triangle is big: thousand of light-years for example. Think bigger and still it will be flat. Second: I found only one discussion in the early middle ages where a bishop and an abbot discussed about whether the Earth is a globe or a disk. I don't know what they found out - we found meanwhile out the Earth is like a potato. Perhaps the USA will make freedom fries out of it. It was by the way the American author Washington Irving who established this absurde idea "everyone thought the Earth is flat" in the 19th century, because he tried to justify the idiocies of the American hero Columbus.

    "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth" is by the way written in Isaiah 40, 22. "Circle" and "sphere" are the same word in the Hebrew original. Astonishing, isn't it? Could it be this was the first time in history someone said: "the Earth is a sphere"?

    Nevertheless you show with your own prejudice that also a gigantic mass of people is able to be wrong. But that's not a wonder: The intelligence of a mob for example is the average intelligence of the members of the mob divided by the number of the members of this mob.

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    If it's all a "Numbers Game", Spooky....


    then clearly CHRISTIANS are wrong....


    since the majority of people in the world, who believe in some kind of "God"...


    are NOT Christians. Add the Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. together....it's like 4:1 against Christianity
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    Yes, a billion people can be wrong.

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    "Can a billion people be wrong?"

    There are more than a billion Muslims.

    There are a more than a billion Chinese.

    Bet you disagree with 'em about something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    At one point the entire population of the Earth believed it was flat, how could they be wrong?
    If you had read the Bible you would have known different.. The Bible said the earth was a sphere 3500-4000 years ago Isaiah 40:22. It was the Scientist that said the earth was flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaangalewa View Post
    A myth. First of all: the world, the universe in this case, is flat. It follows the mathematics of Euclid where a triangle has 180 - even if this triangle is big: thousand of light-years for example. Think bigger and still it will be flat. Second: I found only one discussion in the early middle ages where a bishop and an abbot discussed about whether the Earth is a globe or a disk. I don't know what they found out - we found meanwhile out the Earth is like a potato. Perhaps the USA will make freedom fries out of it. It was by the way the American author Washington Irving who established this absurde idea "everyone thought the Earth is flat" in the 19th century, because he tried to justify the idiocies of the American hero Columbus.

    "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth" is by the way written in Isaiah 40, 22. "Circle" and "cube" are the same word in the Hebrew original. Astonishing, isn't it? Could it be this was the first time in history someone said: "the Earth is a cube"?

    Nevertheless you show with your own prejudice that also a gigantic mass of people is able to be wrong. But that's not a wonder: The intelligence of a mob for example is the average intelligence of the members of the mob divided by the number of the members of the mob.
    The Flat Earth Model was believed by many ancient cultures. The myth is that the (educated) people of the Middle Ages believed it was flat (when they had long known it wasn't), and that the explorers of the period were in part attempting to prove it was not. What the first Rennaisance explorers did believe was that the Earth was the center of the Universe. Copernicus didn't even publish his first works on Heliocentrism until around the time of his death in 1542, probably for fear that he would be reprimanded by the church. He was right. The book was placed on the Catholic Church's index of banned books, and Galileio later had to stand trial for spreading the idea of Heliocentrism.

    So whatever. The point remains...a billion people believing something has no connection to it's validity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    If you had read the Bible you would have known different.. The Bible said the earth was a sphere 3500-4000 years ago Isaiah 40:22. It was the Scientist that said the earth was flat.
    A "circle" is two dimensional, and flat.
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