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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    That does not even make any sense. Quit attacking Jews in these pitiful attempts to make Xianity look correct under the Jewish scriptures. It does not work. Your position makes no sense no matter how many threads you cut-and-paste the same stuff into.


    G-d does not abrogate His covenants, or relegate them to the dustbin of history, as you would have Him do. G-d neither breaks His word nor changes His mind.

    But since you mention it ... yes, if your interpretation were correct, you would think the religious Jews would come around first. That we have not, and continue to resist (even unto death) assimilation into Xianity suggests that you are wrong. We know Judaism better than you do.


    There will always be Jews who practice Judaism and know that Xianity is - at best - wrong about the Tanakh. Especially as they only believe the convenient parts anyway.
    You will be surprised who the Messiah is when he comes.
    Last edited by aboutenough; 2nd June 2017 at 05:12 PM.

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    I rather like the Ancient Egyptian idea of weighing the soul against the "feather of truth".

    The Egyptian Afterlife & The Feather of Truth (Article) - Ancient History Encyclopedia

    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    I can't answer for either as I am neither but I have done a lot of study in religions.

    I do know that Jews don't believe in either a heaven or hell. My understanding is that they have some beliefs as to where the soul goes after death to cleanse itself for the world to come but there is no official doctrine beyond that. Jewish faith focuses on this world more than the next.

    With respect to fundamentalist or Evangelicals they will tell you the only way for anybody to get to heaven is through Jesus Christ. If you don't believe you don't get in to heaven. I think the hell part is based on if you were a good person or not but I suppose some of them do think you do go to hell if you are a non believer and not saved (regardless of being good or bad). I am not sure that they have a concept of purgatory or a limbo. I have never come across any one that discussed it or any material that addressed that specifically it was either HELL OR HEAVEN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    I think me and NightSwim were just joking, Ian. Of course, Jews don't believe in baptism.


    BTW, you'll notice how my prediction is coming true....that the ACTUAL ANSWER to my question posed in the Subect Line "Can I get a straight answer...."


    is "No, you can't. The Fund/Evange Christians won't give you one." Spooky has proven that, I'm sure TNVol, aboutenough, etc. will as well.

    They are caught in a dilemma.

    They can't say "Jews go to Hell", because that means God has broken his Covenant with the Jews.

    But they can't say "Jews go to Heaven, too, same as Christians", because that means that there are "other ways" to get to Heaven, than by accepting Jesus as Christ and your personal savior.

    Therefore, they dodge, deflect, bob, weave, fold, spindle, mutiliate, DESPERATELY try to change the subject.....rather than give a straight answer.
    Every time I see you post, you are trying to trip people up or trick them. Why do you do that? It is irritating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    Every time I see you post, you are trying to trip people up or trick them. Why do you do that? It is irritating.
    Most of his threads are nothing but taunts. We're used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Jews broke the Covenant while in the Egyptian Desert with Moses, this is why the Jews wandered lost in the desert for 40 years.
    That is completely untrue. You clearly have no familiarity with the Torah. You are just making things up in order to attack Jews and Judaism.

    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    You just don't get it, but one day I know all Jews will realize there is a New Covenant, by the revelation from G-d.
    Oh, there will be a "new covenant" when the moshiach arrives, but it will not have anything to do with Xianity. The Torah is eternal; the new covenant will merely be a new promise, like the covenants with Avraham, Yitzchak and Yaakov, respectively - none of which were abrogated by the creation of a subsequent covenant. There has been and will be no new Torah, because the Torah is eternal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Jeremiah doesn't speak of the New Testament, he speaks of the New Covenant.
    Something is really wrong with you. This same old troll post has nothing to do with what I wrote and which you quoted. You are ignoring facts in your continuous attacks on Jews and Judaism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    You will be surprise who the Messiah is when he comes.
    It will not be your Jesus, claims surrounding whom are not justified by the Tanakh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    Every time I see you post, you are trying to trip people up or trick them. Why do you do that? It is irritating.
    You should try reading aboutenough's posts....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    What is righteous?

    Its not a hard question and one you don't need to ask us, it's in the Bible.

    Duh
    WHOSE Bible? Certainly not the one you get your morality frim?

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    As you see our local fundamentalist Christians did EXACTLY as I predicted...



    they refused to give a direct answer to a simple question.


    And we all know why.

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