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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    That's presumptuous. Most of those "nones", in fact, are well aware that life ends. They are just not afraid of that like theists are. Theists are so terrified of lefe ending that they feel the need to fill the void of nothing with fairy tales of cities of gold, and happily ever afters.

    The new generation is more rational. They don't need fairy tales to comfort them. I might also point out that this is a generational study. Did you miss the part where those whose parents were also "nones" is growing. In other words, it isn't just a "phase" they'll grow out of. Quite the opposite. These new champions of reason are growing up, and teaching their children to respect reason over fantasy, as well.
    According to this study that's not entirely true. Neither athiests nor the very religious are much afraid of death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    All I can say is both my kids friends (age range from 20 to 30) I think only one is religious. (Catholic)
    Well, you are in California after all.

    Study: Red states more charitable, but religion more a factor than wealth | Fox News

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    Pray tell, what constitutes "logic and reason" to liberals?
    How about we start with what can be demonstrated by objective, demonstrable evidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    According to this study that's not entirely true. Neither athiests nor the very religious are much afraid of death.
    Um...you probably should have read the article: "It's not surprising that, given the promise of an abundant and joyful afterlife, very religious people were among the groups found to be the least fearful of death in a series of studies led by researchers at Britain’s University of Oxford, published Friday."

    That's kinda exactly what I said. In order to stave out their irrational fear of death, the religious wrap themselves in these nice, warm and fuzzy fairy tales of all the wonderful things that "await them on the other side". Rationalists don't need the fairy tales to not fear death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    How about we start with what can be demonstrated by objective, demonstrable evidence?
    If that's the case you should be talking to your liberal friends because you guys aren't all that into objective demonstrable evidence according to this article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    If that's the case you should be talking to your liberal friends because you guys aren't all that into objective demonstrable evidence according to this article.
    Your article seems to be a bit light on demonstrable facts. For instance, it correctly states that 25% of Americans buy into homeopathy, then proceeds to declare that "liberals are the worst offenders". While the former is a statement of fact, the latter is an unfounded accusation.

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    Every time I think ignorant religious people's influence is waning, they do something horrible like vote for Trump or Dubya. All they have to do is make a sickeningly transparent phony service to the religious people and they all climb aboard as if no politician would ever pretend to be religious for political gain. They NEVER question it. So stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    Every time I think ignorant religious people's influence is waning, they do something horrible like vote for Trump or Dubya. All they have to do is make a sickeningly transparent phony service to the religious people and they all climb aboard as if no politician would ever pretend to be religious for political gain. They NEVER question it. So stupid.
    Nancy Pelosi is a devout Catholic mother of five. Obama is a christian. When was the last time you questioned either of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Your article seems to be a bit light on demonstrable facts. For instance, it correctly states that 25% of Americans buy into homeopathy, then proceeds to declare that "liberals are the worst offenders". While the former is a statement of fact, the latter is an unfounded accusation.
    Not a problem. Try this article, or this one. If you need more just ask.

    Democrats are no more the party of science than my dog spot. But hey, keep making that claim.


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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    Every time I think ignorant religious people's influence is waning, they do something horrible like vote for Trump or Dubya. All they have to do is make a sickeningly transparent phony service to the religious people and they all climb aboard as if no politician would ever pretend to be religious for political gain. They NEVER question it. So stupid.
    I have always thought of religion and voting as having something in common. The older one gets, the more involved they get in both. Cant tell you now that I am getting older, how many of my non religious friends are heading back to church. "Covering my bases" said one of my friends, "just in case." lol I guess they also figure, what the hell else I am going to do when I retire. These same people also are the ones that vote religiously, never miss an election for anything.

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