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    That may be because it is mythology. Just saying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
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    The version does not matter as long as it is an honest translation. The message does not change.



    There are several words used in the Bible to describe a region or area and the entire world. Two of those words and their usage are erets and tebel. When Cain was banished, the word used was erits. Cain banished from his area, his land. The Bible uses the word erets over fifteen hundred times describing an area of land, not the world.

    The word used in the Bible to describe the universe or the world is tebel. The word tebel was used thirty-six times to describe the entire world in the Old Testament.

    It is not so much the word, which an mean different things, but how the word was used.



    There are many archeological studies that support a regional flood.

    The debate of one thing is wrong and another thing is right regarding the Bible can be acrimonious and mean-spirited as are most debates regarding religion. I have my knowledge base and that is fine for me and you can have yours. I am not going to attempt to change your mind and you cannot change mine. I will engage in a civil exchange on our collective knowledge regarding the topic.
    I don't think the topic is over some geological evidence of flood. I've never questioned that. The whole text suffers from a loss of gravitas if we think of it as simply a regional flood, no? I mean, God couldn't have destroyed all the humans that way, since they'd spread out into many other regions by that time. Was God angry at only the humans in the ME? And the original topic of the thread remains untouched by this line of inquiry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    You won't figure this out using 21 century technology. People lived longer in those days, like up to 900 years old. 100 years then would be almost like 10 years is to humans now.




    Anyhoo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    More like 100 years to build the Ark. https://answersingenesis.org/bible-t...build-the-ark/
    Ahso different calenders. No wonder..

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    They were Bronze Age agrarians and herdsmen.
    who went to North America to get bears, South America to get llamas and alpacas, Asia to get tigers, Africa to get elephants.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    Do you have any links to those studies that report a significant regional flood?

    And if it was just regional, then again the bible lies.


    Well, not necessarily. The "world," that is to say, the known world at that time, was rather small. It is possible that there was a regional flood and that Noah built a barge and saved some farm animals from the rising water.

    It is more plausible that the story is just a story, perhaps based on the Epic of Gilgamesh.

    Which still doesn't make it a lie. It would be fiction, perhaps a story meant to entertain and to give a life lesson, but not meant to be taken as an historical event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    who went to North America to get bears, South America to get llamas and alpacas, Asia to get tigers, Africa to get elephants.....
    At that time, New Zealand had seven different breeds of flightless birds, quite a swim for them to get to the Ark, hell they could have just treaded water during the flood if they swam that good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    Do you have any links to those studies that report a significant regional flood?

    And if it was just regional, then again the bible lies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Well, not necessarily. The "world," that is to say, the known world at that time, was rather small. It is possible that there was a regional flood and that Noah built a barge and saved some farm animals from the rising water.

    It is more plausible that the story is just a story, perhaps based on the Epic of Gilgamesh.

    Which still doesn't make it a lie. It would be fiction, perhaps a story meant to entertain and to give a life lesson, but not meant to be taken as an historical event.
    There is the Black Sea Hypothesis..


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_...uge_hypothesis
    The Black Sea deluge is a hypothesized catastrophic rise in the level of the Black Sea circa 5600 BC from waters from the Mediterranean Sea breaching a sill in the Bosphorus strait. While it is agreed that the sequence of events described by the hypothesis occurred, there is significant debate over the suddenness, dating and magnitude of the events.


    Black Sea today (light blue) and in 5600 BC (dark blue) according to Ryan and Pitman's hypothesis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    There is the Black Sea Hypothesis..


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_...uge_hypothesis
    The Black Sea deluge is a hypothesized catastrophic rise in the level of the Black Sea circa 5600 BC from waters from the Mediterranean Sea breaching a sill in the Bosphorus strait. While it is agreed that the sequence of events described by the hypothesis occurred, there is significant debate over the suddenness, dating and magnitude of the events.


    Black Sea today (light blue) and in 5600 BC (dark blue) according to Ryan and Pitman's hypothesis
    Interesting, that would have been some 2000 years before the Bronze Age and at the earliest period of agriculture. But oral legends could have been passed down for generations...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6th_millennium_BC

    A lot of shit happened in the 6th Millennium BC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Well, not necessarily. The "world," that is to say, the known world at that time, was rather small. It is possible that there was a regional flood and that Noah built a barge and saved some farm animals from the rising water.

    It is more plausible that the story is just a story, perhaps based on the Epic of Gilgamesh.

    Which still doesn't make it a lie. It would be fiction, perhaps a story meant to entertain and to give a life lesson, but not meant to be taken as an historical event.
    Fine, rather than lie, let's be generous and say "incorrect" due to the limited knowledge of stuff back then. But my main point still stands. If the bible is wrong about that, what else is it wrong about, and who choses what is right and what is wrong?

    Plus, that just blows the whole "literal word of god" meme all to hell. (Sorry for the mixed metaphor if that's what it is. )

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