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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Dunno. Boethius had some interesting things to say about time--comparing our temporal perceptions and the transcendent perspective of God.

    Whatever our public performances, God judges the heart, which is revealed to no one else.
    I don't think we should take time too literally in the Bible. 2 Peter 3:8 "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    heh

    one of the questions they ask you in the papers you sign before you have surgery.... who should they send if the need arises. I took out a fat sharpy maker and big bold print..... SEND NO ONE!!!

    what do i find waking up.... a priest at the foot of my bed. I was conscious enough to tell him to get the fuck out of my room.


    here is the question you need to ask yourself.... what do YOU believe? It makes not one bit of difference what anyone else believes.

    I personally dont believe in "going" to an eternal anything...heaven or hell. I believe we are in a continuum and are already in the eternal. Where you are in the continuum and who is with you are those you are closest to in the eternal.
    Oh, I'm atheist. Was a very outspoken one (annoyingly so) for a spell. I was one of "those" who "ruined it for everybody" while in the Navy (bulldog for separation of church and state), but I've mellowed into more of a live-and-let-live type....providing your 'living' isn't contingent on my being conquered, converted, enslaved or murdered.

    I generally stay away from it, out of respect for other's beliefs, but the Facebook thing put me in a sharing mood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    So, I reluctantly logged on Facebook to wish an extended family member happy birthday (those annoying notifications pop in whether logged on or not, so I can't escape the feeling of guilt for forgetting birthdays. Thanks, Zuckerberg. asshole) and was briefly sucked into 'the scroll'. Anyway, someone I don't know (my page is full of people I don't know) had lost a family member and posted a heartfelt memorial, and of course their circle were extending condolences. Standard fare, including the comforting reminder that "we'll be with them again forever in Heaven"

    which got my quirky brain to thinking...

    What do people who suffered physical, psychological or sexual abuse at the hands of deceased family members do when they die and go to heaven? Are the abused and abusers forced to awkwardly endure each other's presence....for eternity?

    It's my understanding that the abusers can toss the 'Get Out Of Hell Free' card by repenting their sins, so I can only presume those who do will be granted access.
    They can repent their sins and still get into Heaven. Correct. Those victimized will have to have faith in the Lord and will carry on. I don't think true believers have an issue with this. Only God can know the pureness of ones soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    So, I reluctantly logged on Facebook to wish an extended family member happy birthday (those annoying notifications pop in whether logged on or not, so I can't escape the feeling of guilt for forgetting birthdays. Thanks, Zuckerberg. asshole) and was briefly sucked into 'the scroll'. Anyway, someone I don't know (my page is full of people I don't know) had lost a family member and posted a heartfelt memorial, and of course their circle were extending condolences. Standard fare, including the comforting reminder that "we'll be with them again forever in Heaven"

    which got my quirky brain to thinking...

    What do people who suffered physical, psychological or sexual abuse at the hands of deceased family members do when they die and go to heaven? Are the abused and abusers forced to awkwardly endure each other's presence....for eternity?

    It's my understanding that the abusers can toss the 'Get Out Of Hell Free' card by repenting their sins, so I can only presume those who do will be granted access.
    The same thing happens to the abused as to the abusers. They go 6 feet under the ground and are nothing but a memory
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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    They can repent their sins and still get into Heaven. Correct. Those victimized will have to have faith in the Lord and will carry on. I don't think true believers have an issue with this. Only God can know the pureness of ones soul.
    The repentance has to be genuine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Jesus in John 14:2 "My Father's house has many rooms."

    lmao!

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    Oh, I'm atheist. Was a very outspoken one (annoyingly so) for a spell. I was one of "those" who "ruined it for everybody" while in the Navy (bulldog for separation of church and state), but I've mellowed into more of a live-and-let-live type....providing your 'living' isn't contingent on my being conquered, converted, enslaved or murdered.

    I generally stay away from it, out of respect for other's beliefs, but the Facebook thing put me in a sharing mood.
    first sin was being on facebook. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    first sin was being on facebook. lol.
    Seriously. I've all but eliminated that life-suck. Birthdays, deathdays, graduations, and other tribal milestones are about the extent of it....and if that guilt eliciting notification window didn't randomly pop in, it wouldn't be that....

    It's like the cell phone and caller ID, that fucking notification. Back in the old days, if you didn't answer the phone, the caller had no choice but to assume you weren't home. Nowadays, I suffer guilt when I'm screening...and if I don't post the "happy birthdays!" after Zuckerberg's monster breaks into my life to remind me, I get the same guilty feeling.

    I'm complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    I am a dust to dust guy myself, no quandaries or magic involved
    Me too! Pedophiles, wife beaters, rapists and ISIS members and NAZIS (they were christians) still got to go there? BULLSHIT!

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    So, Heaven is perfection by definition, right? Among other things, that means there ain’t no toilets in Heaven. Stands to reason… No latrines, no outhouses, no sewer lines, no sewage treatment plants, nothing like that… That’s all nasty, and their ain’t no nastiness in Heaven. There’s no shit in Heaven, is what I’m saying. Can’t be. But then, where does the poop go?

    I mean, you gotta eat. Even if you don’t need to eat, eating is one of the best things ever, right? How could Heaven be, well, heavenly if you never get to eat anything at all? Imagine that, sitting around all day with never a meal to break the monotony. That doesn’t sound like Heaven to me.

    But if you do eat, then that food has to go somewhere, right? You can’t keep it in you, obviously. And puking it all back up doesn’t sound very much like Heaven to me either. That means it’s got to go some place. Does God magically zap it out of existence somewhere between your duodenum and your colon? That sounds weird – and not especially comfortable. So… what?

    It’s a puzzler, for sure.

    Cheers.

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