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    Philip Jose Farmer had the best take on life after death of anyone.

    Most of the resurrected awaken in a body equivalent to that of their 25-year-old selves, in perfect health and free of any previous genetic or acquired defects. All heart disease, tooth decay, and blindness are gone, and all amputated limbs are restored; whereas certain neurological impulses (for instance, curiosity or chemical addiction) remain intact. These bodies do not age, after a physical 25 years, and can regenerate nearly any non-fatal injury, including dismemberments and blindings. The new bodies are completely free of infection and seem resistant to it (albeit in the absence of hostile bacteria or viruses on the Riverworld). Initially hairless, the bodies grow cephalic hair and pubic hair at a normal rate. Men do not have foreskins or grow facial hair; whereas women have intact hymens. It is impossible to conceive children on Riverworld.
    Anyone who died at an age younger than 25 assumes a body equivalent to that lesser age, which then ages at a normal rate before stopping at 25. No one who was less than five years old at death is resurrected on the Riverworld (it is eventually revealed that children under the age of five were resurrected on another planet, Gardenworld). Should an individual die, they are resurrected elsewhere along the banks of the river. Some people even use this process to travel, though there is a limit to the number of resurrections available to each person.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverworld

    Hell of a lot more interesting than the usual heaven and hell concepts. Who wouldn't want to take a ride with Mark Twain on his fabulous Riverboat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havelock View Post
    So, Heaven is perfection by definition, right? Among other things, that means there ain’t no toilets in Heaven. Stands to reason… No latrines, no outhouses, no sewer lines, no sewage treatment plants, nothing like that… That’s all nasty, and their ain’t no nastiness in Heaven. There’s no shit in Heaven, is what I’m saying. Can’t be. But then, where does the poop go?

    I mean, you gotta eat. Even if you don’t need to eat, eating is one of the best things ever, right? How could Heaven be, well, heavenly if you never get to eat anything at all? Imagine that, sitting around all day with never a meal to break the monotony. That doesn’t sound like Heaven to me.

    But if you do eat, then that food has to go somewhere, right? You can’t keep it in you, obviously. And puking it all back up doesn’t sound very much like Heaven to me either. That means it’s got to go some place. Does God magically zap it out of existence somewhere between your duodenum and your colon? That sounds weird – and not especially comfortable. So… what?

    It’s a puzzler, for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    The repentance has to be genuine.
    And if someone is in Heaven. It was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    They can repent their sins and still get into Heaven. Correct. Those victimized will have to have faith in the Lord and will carry on. I don't think true believers have an issue with this. Only God can know the pureness of ones soul.
    So their souls have been darker than the hubs of hell for most of their lives. Suddenly they are on death row or similar and get scared so they get religion. Big wow.

    Have there been any studies about the ones who have their sentences reversed as to whether they maintain their purity?

    Personally, I'd guess not. Without death staring them in the face, hell, lets get back to rape, pillage and plunder.
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    Philip Jose Farmer had the best take on life after death of anyone.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverworld

    Hell of a lot more interesting than the usual heaven and hell concepts. Who wouldn't want to take a ride with Mark Twain on his fabulous Riverboat?
    Yeah, it's a little like reincarnation. I think it was Robert A. Heinlein or it might have been Robert B. Parker who wrote in one book, (obviously discussing a female) how come everyone who believes in reincarnation was always an Egyptian princes or similar in their previous life but never a two buck whore in a Capetown crib?

    It's like people who, when the wife/partner suffers a miscarriage say that it's OK, they will meet their child in heaven. Will the little glob of cells talk with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    So their souls have been darker than the hubs of hell for most of their lives. Suddenly they are on death row or similar and get scared so they get religion. Big wow.

    Have there been any studies about the ones who have their sentences reversed as to whether they maintain their purity?

    Personally, I'd guess not. Without death staring them in the face, hell, lets get back to rape, pillage and plunder.
    A sentence on Earth has no bearing on God's judgement. Many innocent people have been wrongly sentenced. God knows better.
    Asking for forgiveness because you are scared doesn't cut it either. One must truly repent and be changed.
    You and I aren't capable of seeing this.

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    George Carlin had it right.
    He believed that when you die your soul goes to a garage in cleveland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    A sentence on Earth has no bearing on God's judgement. Many innocent people have been wrongly sentenced. God knows better.
    Asking for forgiveness because you are scared doesn't cut it either. One must truly repent and be changed.
    You and I aren't capable of seeing this.
    There are a herd of Catholics, dutifully going to confession regularly that don't like what you're saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    Yeah, it's a little like reincarnation. I think it was Robert A. Heinlein or it might have been Robert B. Parker who wrote in one book, (obviously discussing a female) how come everyone who believes in reincarnation was always an Egyptian princes or similar in their previous life but never a two buck whore in a Capetown crib?

    It's like people who, when the wife/partner suffers a miscarriage say that it's OK, they will meet their child in heaven. Will the little glob of cells talk with them?
    In Farmers books you came back as your original self,all 30 billion humans that had ever lived before we went extinct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    There are a herd of Catholics, dutifully going to confession regularly that don't like what you're saying.
    And that's fine. I'm not one of those people that criticize others for their beliefs. There are so many that mine might likely be wrong. But my faith gives me strength and comfort. I hope theirs does as well.
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