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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    This question has come up on several occasions. Sometimes it's worded "Why does the Freedom From Religion Foundation only target Christians?"

    Part of the answer is that the combined Muslims, Jews, and Hindus represent only 3.5% of the U.S. population, compared with Christians at 70.6%. You might as well ask why so few green-eyed people get promoted; there just aren't as many of them. The other half is that the overwhelming Christian majority emboldens many to engage in behaviors that are potential legal violations.

    But the FFRF has an answer written by a FRFF staff attorney member wholly qualified to provide a comprehensive statement.

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    Read the whole thing here.
    They sound like freaking idiots. We do not live in a Democracy. Our Constitution guarantees that we shall have a Republican form of Government (Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution.) THAT is why the majority cannot dictate to the minority.

    The reasoning is completely false. Black people only make up - what maybe 15 percent of out population in the U.S.? They wield as much power as the alleged 70 percent of the white population and what happens when they are publicly criticized?

    And don't the majority stand up against the Christians on things like gay rights and the power of atheists?

    I suppose the people right of center should learn how to complain effectively... like filing their complaints with the proper authorities / organizations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    What benefits does anyone have from Social Control of Christianity? I can understand controlling people with Global Warming because the goal is profits financially . How would Jesus benefit from what people believe today?
    Are we talking about social control of Christianity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    What happens if I pray for a person and G-d heals him? Who do you punish, me or G-d?
    I dispute the premises of your question, and question your sincerity in any case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    When I make a claim about what you said....
    ... you are playing games and making personal attacks instead of addressing the topic. In this case, you are pretending I was referring to a type of education other than a Jewish education - despite the fact that is the only relevant kind and the only kind I have referring to in multiple conversations. It is, in fact, dishonest for you to even continue this line of discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Isaiah 35
    Non-responsive and irrelevant. Your Jesus is not in the Tanakh, for all your shoehorning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humorme View Post
    We do not live in a Democracy. Our Constitution guarantees that we shall have a Republican form of Government (Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution.)
    The two are neither mutually exclusive nor antithetical. We are both.

    Quote Originally Posted by Humorme View Post
    THAT is why the majority cannot dictate to the minority.
    Aside from the fact that the majority does dictate to the minority, it is restricted from doing so by limits on governmental power. It has nothing to do with either democracy or republicanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Mathew 12
    9 Now when He had departed from there, He went into their synagogue. 10 And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand.
    So you confess your lie about "the Pharisees wanted to punish Jesus for doing good by healing the blind man". OK
    The whole idea of healing on the Sabbath was wrong with the Jews. They believed people that were blind or had physical ailments such as withered hands got that from sinning. They thought Jesus healing on the Sabbath was stopping what God wanted for these people.
    Who told you this nonsense?
    11 Then He said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out? 12 Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”
    A very stupid statement of Jesus.
    First, you cannot compare a man possibly born sick and a sheep, which falls into a pit on the Sabbath.
    Second, saving your property (sheep) doesn't mean to do good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael J View Post
    That is an Argument by Assertion from the authoritarians who wrote the Christian Gospels. They have no proof of what they say. Their words are pure dogma that their adherents passively absorb without critical analysis. Like I said earlier, you can't discover truth by empowering individuals that take authority as the truth. You discover truth when truth is the sole authority.
    People that were healed have proof, but you just don't want to hear it. You have reasoned that there is no God, so healing can't happen even if there is evidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael J View Post
    You post the quote and misinterpret what it says.
    I let the quote speak for itself. You or Ian just don't like getting caught double talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael J View Post
    So yes, you still believe in the dogma of the church's political establishment.
    The church never talked me into anything. Like I said, I left the church at one time because it made no sense to me.

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