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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    It does not matter what you call it, it matters what it is. And it is still faith and belief, not fact. Substance over form.
    Aboutenough has mastered Texas Sharpshooter fallacies, Ad Hominems and Non sequiturs. Now he is getting pretty good at Chewbacca Defenses. He is supposed to be addressing our words and instead he starts preaching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    You may be schooled, but you have not had a revelation. Paul the Apostle was an educated Jew that was persecuting Christians. He was responsible for stoning the first martyr Steven that died. Christ confronted Paul and asked him why he was persecuting his followers (this was after he rose from the dead). Paul was temporarily blinded and became the main spokesman for the gospel and planted many churches. Why would an educated Jew (similar to Ian) change his religion and promote the Gospel if it was false?
    When you say revelation, you mean the very same thing as the ESP fraudsters and the defendant with the giant, invisible rabbit.

    Jesus did not rise from the dead. There isn't even any archeological evidence of his tomb.

    In your last sentence, you use the same deceptive social referencing that advertisers use. You say "smart people believe this, so you should, too." It is a type of propaganda called snob Appeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Paul’s Training
    Sounds like Paul was pumping up his resume. You cannot use your "New Testament" to prove that it is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Sounds like Paul was pumping up his resume. You cannot use your "New Testament" to prove that it is true.
    That's fine as long as you don't use The Torah and Tanakh in Judaism, then we will call it even

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    That's fine as long as you don't use The Torah and Tanakh in Judaism, then we will call it even
    No. The Tanakh (which includes the Torah, by the way) is the basis of Judaism. It is Judaism. Paul (and others) have lied about what the Tanakh says, and what it means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    No. The Tanakh (which includes the Torah, by the way) is the basis of Judaism. It is Judaism. Paul (and others) have lied about what the Tanakh says, and what it means.
    You don't want the New Testament to be used to prove itself, yet you use the Tanakh to prove itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    You don't want the New Testament to be used to prove itself, yet you use the Tanakh to prove itself.
    Nothing can be used to prove itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    You don't want the New Testament to be used to prove itself, yet you use the Tanakh to prove itself.
    No, I do not. You do not understand what the word "prove" means. And I can use - and have used - the Tanakh to prove your "New Testament" is inconsistent with the Tanakh. You cannot have it both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by font View Post
    Nothing can be used to prove itself.
    Only problem is the Bible is 66 different books, not one. its fully capable of proving itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    [T]he Bible is ... fully capable of proving itself.
    No, it is not. You cannot use anything to prove itself.

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