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    Why doesn’t FFRF go after Muslims?

    This question has come up on several occasions. Sometimes it's worded "Why does the Freedom From Religion Foundation only target Christians?"

    Part of the answer is that the combined Muslims, Jews, and Hindus represent only 3.5% of the U.S. population, compared with Christians at 70.6%. You might as well ask why so few green-eyed people get promoted; there just aren't as many of them. The other half is that the overwhelming Christian majority emboldens many to engage in behaviors that are potential legal violations.

    But the FFRF has an answer written by a FRFF staff attorney member wholly qualified to provide a comprehensive statement.

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    FFRF does take issue with the government promoting or favoring any religion, including Islam. Groups seeking to uphold the Constitution may appear to "target" Christians only because we "target" the violators. As the majority, Christians are simply more likely to violate the Constitution.

    Pew Research numbers reveal that the U.S. Muslim population is at 1 percent, Jewish at 1.8 percent and Hindu at 0.7 percent. In contrast, self-identified Christians are at 70.6 percent.

    FFRF accordingly receives very few complaints about Muslim violations. We get few complaints about Jewish, Hindu, Wiccan or other minority religious entanglements with government, either. When FFRF receives any bona fide complaint about any Establishment Clause violation, we research it and try to take action, depending on the facts and the legal precedent.

    This is not just a question of numbers. Of course, the greater proportion of Christians in the population means there is a higher probability any given malefactor is Christian. But in a democracy, where government is structured so that majority rules on certain issues, it is usually the majority that will violate the rights of the minority. In fact, this is precisely why the Bill of Rights exists — to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.
    Read the whole thing here.

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    I hear you, but are you sure it isn't just a leftist conspiracy to overthrow Christianity and supplant it with Islam? And what about Sharia Law? They're okay with that replacing the contitution, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    I hear you, but are you sure it isn't just a leftist conspiracy to overthrow Christianity and supplant it with Islam? And what about Sharia Law? They're okay with that replacing the contitution, right?
    Oh, totally. It's in their mission statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    I hear you, but are you sure it isn't just a leftist conspiracy to overthrow Christianity and supplant it with Islam? And what about Sharia Law? They're okay with that replacing the contitution, right?
    That was obviously the case under the Kenyan Muslim communist gay president, but President Trump will save us from all that.

    Common knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    I hear you, but are you sure it isn't just a leftist conspiracy to overthrow Christianity and supplant it with Islam? And what about Sharia Law? They're okay with that replacing the contitution, right?
    I just got the cutest hot pink bUrqua
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    Atheist Group Objects to Muslim Prayer Spaces at University of Iowa - Breitbart
    Notice here the FFRF writes a letter to the President of the University of Iowa warning about the Muslim prayer rooms. No follow up, no lawsuit. Why?

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    For once, I looked at the link, and Breitbart's lawyer supports the prayerful students. Whoda thunk it?

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    Atheist Group Objects to Muslim Prayer Spaces at University of Iowa - Breitbart
    Notice here the FFRF writes a letter to the President of the University of Iowa warning about the Muslim prayer rooms. No follow up, no lawsuit. Why?
    because it's already settled law that even public institutions can set aside locations for religious functions. so long as the functions do not interfere with school function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    That was obviously the case under the Kenyan Muslim communist gay president, but President Trump will save us from all that.
    Dude, I'm pretty sure he was an illegal alien, too. He was from Hawaii, and they don't even have an embassy in the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Atheist Group Objects to Muslim Prayer Spaces at University of Iowa - Breitbart
    Notice here the FFRF writes a letter to the President of the University of Iowa warning about the Muslim prayer rooms. No follow up, no lawsuit. Why?
    Not sure you've done enough research. For example a month after the story you cite, the FFRF organized a protest: Atheist group protests Muslim prayer rooms at Univ. of Iowa | News for College Students | USA TODAY College

    And this is the response of the university:
    Media Relations Manager Anne Bassett tells USA TODAY College the rooms can be used for any purpose and by any organization at the school.

    “The new temporary space for prayer and meditation in the Iowa Memorial Union was requested by students of the Muslim faith, but is open to all students,” Bassett says. “The IMU policy provides space for registered student organizations, regardless of the mission of the organization, be it academic, programming, service, political or religious.”
    They may not be suing the school because they may not have a case.
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