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    Is morality not ethics? Perhaps not.

    Was talking to a couple that both came from Poland as kids. Grew up here. And they were talking about the current government and the corruption and the human rights issues and threats to journalists there. And I remember that on PH I saw Trump was just there and the leader ( forget his name) was just thrilled that Trump mentioned God. And the audience also, being Catholic, felt strongly that that was important.

    I mention how this makes no sense to me. How people can glorify morality and religion, but also glorify leaders and governments that behave in ways that I see as pure evil. (Poland, not Trump).

    The lady says "It's Poland. They believe in morality there. Not in ethics".

    To me: those words are synonyms. But the more I think about it. Maybe it explains the thinking process of people that I personally can't understand.

    The guy laughed when I asked what's the difference, "in Poland a person who cheats to help someone they love is a hero. In Canada, they're a cheater"

    Is morality diffetent than ethics?
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    Here are two interpretations of "Ethics v Morals". IMO, "morals" require religion and are personal, "ethics" don't require religion or personalization. Both are values systems that interpret Right and Wrong.

    Difference Between Morals and Ethics (with Examples and Comparison Chart) - Key Differences

    Ethics vs Morals - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

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    Morals is more about social norm and what is good and evil in reference to them, it refers often to rules and has Something to do with repression of misbehaviors..... Ethics leads more to an interaction between the individual and how he projects himself philosophically toward others to promote good against evil. Morals is easier to define negatively, when ethics needs to rely on Something positive.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    Here are two interpretations of "Ethics v Morals". IMO, "morals" require religion and are personal, "ethics" don't require religion or personalization. Both are values systems that interpret Right and Wrong.

    Difference Between Morals and Ethics (with Examples and Comparison Chart) - Key Differences

    Ethics vs Morals - Difference and Comparison | Diffen
    Those links appear to contradict each other: one says morals are set by society, whereas ethics reflect personal actions; the other says the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    Was talking to a couple that both came from Poland as kids. Grew up here. And they were talking about the current government and the corruption and the human rights issues and threats to journalists there. And I remember that on PH I saw Trump was just there and the leader ( forget his name) was just thrilled that Trump mentioned God. And the audience also, being Catholic, felt strongly that that was important.

    I mention how this makes no sense to me. How people can glorify morality and religion, but also glorify leaders and governments that behave in ways that I see as pure evil. (Poland, not Trump).

    The lady says "It's Poland. They believe in morality there. Not in ethics".

    To me: those words are synonyms. But the more I think about it. Maybe it explains the thinking process of people that I personally can't understand.

    The guy laughed when I asked what's the difference, "in Poland a person who cheats to help someone they love is a hero. In Canada, they're a cheater"

    Is morality diffetent than ethics?
    Morality and ethics are not the same ethics is how well you follow your moral code.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality

    They appear to be mildly different, but intertwined.

    In modern parlance, "morality" is a system of right and wrong as determined by religion or logic, while "ethics" tend to be profession-specific rules of conduct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Morality and ethics are not the same ethics is how well you follow your moral code.
    OK, Trump has no morals so he has no ethics=thanks TNVolunteer for clearing that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    Was talking to a couple that both came from Poland as kids. Grew up here. And they were talking about the current government and the corruption and the human rights issues and threats to journalists there. And I remember that on PH I saw Trump was just there and the leader ( forget his name) was just thrilled that Trump mentioned God. And the audience also, being Catholic, felt strongly that that was important.

    I mention how this makes no sense to me. How people can glorify morality and religion, but also glorify leaders and governments that behave in ways that I see as pure evil. (Poland, not Trump).

    The lady says "It's Poland. They believe in morality there. Not in ethics".

    To me: those words are synonyms. But the more I think about it. Maybe it explains the thinking process of people that I personally can't understand.

    The guy laughed when I asked what's the difference, "in Poland a person who cheats to help someone they love is a hero. In Canada, they're a cheater"

    Is morality diffetent than ethics?
    Dr. Knuckles,

    Similar, but different. Morality is the driver that tells you the difference between right and wrong, and ethics is the mechanism that you use to substantiate your morality.

    Kinda like the definition of accuracy vs. precision in engineering, for lack of a better analogy. A calculation has to be accurate (moral), precision tells you the degree of accuracy (ethics) that is required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    OK, Trump has no morals so he has no ethics=thanks TNVolunteer for clearing that up.
    No Hillary has no morals, Trump has morals, you see Trump morality

    Women deserve equal pay

    Hillary Women only deserve to be paid 3/5 the wages of men

    Based on the salaries they pay their employees, and Staff

    Hillary's morals, She is above the law

    Sailors and Soldiers have been sent to prison for 5-10 years for less breaches of security than she committed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    .... Trump has morals, ....


    We need a "most hilarious post of the day" thread, but someone would complain about it and get it shut down.
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