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    God; a good father or a deadbeat dad. Which is the truth?

    God; a good father or a deadbeat dad. Which is the truth?

    The use of the term Father in speaking of God is quite ancient and was around way before Jesus started using the term, even though he used son of man a lot more than son of God.

    A son calling someone father in the proud way Jesus did is respecting a worthy father, but if we look at Yahweh, I do not see how anyone could be proud of such a father.

    Yahweh is definitely portrayed as being quite vile thanks to his use of genocide, infanticide and punishing the innocent instead of the guilty quite often. Yahweh is also shown to covet Joseph’s wife, cuckold Joseph, produce a son and then take off for parts unknown leaving his responsibility for his son to others thus showing himself to be a deadbeat dad.

    Scripture say that we are all sons of God. To be relevant to his children, a father has to be around to interact with them. It seems that God does not want to be relevant to us as he remains absent and places us, his children, at the mercy of people who have written scripture more to enrich themselves than to give us the messages from God that they claim to know. Even though scriptures say that God id unknowable and unfathomable and his desires cannot be known.

    My analysis of the bible and God does not show God to be a good father.

    Do you, as a child of God, see God as a good father or as more of a deadbeat dad?

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    If god is omnipotent...then he's a terrible father

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    If god is omnipotent...then he's a terrible father
    Christians say he his.

    How they can know anything of the supernatural is a faith based mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    God; a good father or a deadbeat dad. Which is the truth?

    The use of the term Father in speaking of God is quite ancient and was around way before Jesus started using the term, even though he used son of man a lot more than son of God.

    A son calling someone father in the proud way Jesus did is respecting a worthy father, but if we look at Yahweh, I do not see how anyone could be proud of such a father.

    Yahweh is definitely portrayed as being quite vile thanks to his use of genocide, infanticide and punishing the innocent instead of the guilty quite often. Yahweh is also shown to covet Joseph’s wife, cuckold Joseph, produce a son and then take off for parts unknown leaving his responsibility for his son to others thus showing himself to be a deadbeat dad.

    Scripture say that we are all sons of God. To be relevant to his children, a father has to be around to interact with them. It seems that God does not want to be relevant to us as he remains absent and places us, his children, at the mercy of people who have written scripture more to enrich themselves than to give us the messages from God that they claim to know. Even though scriptures say that God id unknowable and unfathomable and his desires cannot be known.

    My analysis of the bible and God does not show God to be a good father.

    Do you, as a child of God, see God as a good father or as more of a deadbeat dad?

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    he is a good father, a good father gives his children direction, but allows his children to follow their dreams in life.

    (Free will doctrine).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    he is a good father, a good father gives his children direction, but allows his children to follow their dreams in life.

    (Free will doctrine).
    He did not allow Jesus that, unless Jesus' dream was to die needlessly.

    1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

    If you created a task that would kill the one accomplishing that task, would you srep up to it or would you send your child to die?

    How about A & E? Their dream was not to stay as bright as bricks with their mental eyes blind, yet God murdered them by neglect and locking away what would have kept them alive, the tree of life.

    Do those not go directly against your "allows his children to follow their dreams in life." ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post

    (Free will doctrine).
    What free will doctrine?

    When born, did you have the free will to ignore the tet and starve?

    I don't think so as your instinct to live would deny you your free will.

    Further, if we had the free will to not sin as an option, some would take it yet none ever have.

    Again, what free will doctrine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    What free will doctrine?

    When born, did you have the free will to ignore the tet and starve?

    I don't think so as your instinct to live would deny you your free will.

    Further, if we had the free will to not sin as an option, some would take it yet none ever have.

    Again, what free will doctrine?

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    My good father and mother gave me guidance to the Tet and/or bottle to so I can suckle it.

    so yes God is the Good Father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    What free will doctrine?

    When born, did you have the free will to ignore the tet and starve?

    I don't think so as your instinct to live would deny you your free will.

    Further, if we had the free will to not sin as an option, some would take it yet none ever have.

    Again, what free will doctrine?

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    as Jesus said. There are 2 roads, one that leads away from God, which is wide and much traveled. the other is narrow and leads because it is less traveled, so choose the correct path. We have free will to choose which road we will follow...

    no one can choose for you, that is YOUR FREE WILL CHOICE.

    Which Road did you Choose.. if you made no choice you chose the wide much traveled path.

    I know you are a 5 point Calvinist and you CHOOSE to ignore the and or statements that Jesus made. (when Christ said If, When, do, those are moments WE HAVE THE FREE WILL TO CHOOSE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Christians say he his.

    How they can know anything of the supernatural is a faith based mystery.

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    Just curious, but how is God explained in the Bible, exactly? Does it say he is omnipotent and omniscient, explicitly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    Just curious, but how is God explained in the Bible, exactly? Does it say he is omnipotent and omniscient, explicitly?
    Which God? The Bible refers to numerous Gods.

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