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    Culturally, of course many/most adherents are motivated by "tribal" affinity, not spirituality, in their self-identification as __________*.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Yeah, I also found it odd that fundamentalists declare that Catholics aren't really Christian when all the protestant religions branched off of the original Christian religion - Catholicism. The Anglican church's reason for existence is the most interesting. Because the Pope wouldn't grant Henry VIII his divorce from Catherine of Aragon. It wasn't like Martin Luther who pointed out the faults of the Church. It was just because he was infatuated with another woman and because Catherine didn't give him a male heir. Fascinating foundation for a religion.
    That wasn't the founding of a religion. It was Henry shaking off control from the Pope. Religious practice barely changed under him. It was a source of contention with Anne. There wasn't a big change until his daughter Elizabeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Yeah, I also found it odd that fundamentalists declare that Catholics aren't really Christian when all the protestant religions branched off of the original Christian religion - Catholicism. The Anglican church's reason for existence is the most interesting. Because the Pope wouldn't grant Henry VIII his divorce from Catherine of Aragon. It wasn't like Martin Luther who pointed out the faults of the Church. It was just because he was infatuated with another woman and because Catherine didn't give him a male heir. Fascinating foundation for a religion.
    Still, you have to admit, becoming the new state religion of the Roman Empire was fairly interesting, in and of itself. Not to mention everything that's happened since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    And the whole thing started with the battle of Milvian Bridge, some 312 years after Christ. Had Constantine the Great lost that battle, we'd still be worshiping Sol Invictus or some other god.
    Well, the serious corruption of Christianity started there. I don't think any other religion opposed the strutting bosses, so I doubt they'd have survived.
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    I was raised Protestant and the wife is a devout Roman Catholic. We have been married for over 30 years, how did we survive. I don't know how I am going to tell the wife that apparently there is something wrong with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWahoo View Post
    I was raised Protestant and the wife is a devout Roman Catholic. We have been married for over 30 years, how did we survive. I don't know how I am going to tell the wife that apparently there is something wrong with us.
    It's probably "don't take yourself too seriously, and respect the other person's point of view" syndrome.

    We have a similar situation: She's a believer and a regular church goer. I'm more of an agnostic. We've been married nearly 50 years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's probably "don't take yourself too seriously, and respect the other person's point of view" syndrome.

    We have a similar situation: She's a believer and a regular church goer. I'm more of an agnostic. We've been married nearly 50 years now.
    When the wife leaves for Mass, I head to the golf course. I suspect when I play well, the wife remembered to pray for me. But then, I might be an unofficial Catholic, my name is also on the collection envelopes mailed to us each month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    The real joke of it is Catholics don't really worship any of those things, including Jesus. It's the least religious of all the Christian religions, in my opinion. For most Catholics, their religion is like being Irish or Italian. It's something that one is supposed to be proud of being (pride is of course a deadly sin, so Catholics created something called "good pride") but not something that really affects how one lives his life. Most Catholics spend the hour every Sunday (if they go—most don't but still consider themselves Catholic) daydreaming and checking out whoever they think is hot as they go up for communion.
    Actually that ties in with a Pew Research poll I read once and can't be bothered to find right now that said of people who self-identify as Jewish, only a third go to temple with any regularity. They admit they consider it a cultural rather than a religious concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWahoo View Post
    I was raised Protestant and the wife is a devout Roman Catholic. We have been married for over 30 years, how did we survive. I don't know how I am going to tell the wife that apparently there is something wrong with us.
    NSFW! perhaps. (are "Feck"s allowed?)

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    (He also does another riff about being an atheist, but still a Catholic!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Yeah, I also found it odd that fundamentalists declare that Catholics aren't really Christian when all the protestant religions branched off of the original Christian religion - Catholicism. The Anglican church's reason for existence is the most interesting. Because the Pope wouldn't grant Henry VIII his divorce from Catherine of Aragon. It wasn't like Martin Luther who pointed out the faults of the Church. It was just because he was infatuated with another woman and because Catherine didn't give him a male heir. Fascinating foundation for a religion.
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