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    Why atheism is a lost cause...

    1. If there is no God or higher power, then religions don't have to be "right", they just have to "win" politically, because "right/wrong" is meaningless beyond what those in power decide. And since population-wise, atheists are a minority while world religions have billions of followers, there is next to no chance of atheism "winning".

    Being "right" is meaningless unless one believes in a higher power, because if there isn't one, then only "might" makes "right".

    2. If there is a God or higher power, then atheism is a likely road to damnation.

    So either way, atheism as a "movement" is pointless and futile, and there's no practical reason to be an atheist, even if a person believes religions are false, they'd be better off just "doing what Romans do" and be on the winning "side" than picking the losing side which has nothing to gain in fighting a "war" against religion it can never win.

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    Point 2 makes you sound like a Bulls fan from the 90s. Is that really how religion works?

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    What is this atheism "movement" you speak of? I know of no organized "movement".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
    1. If there is no God or higher power, then religions don't have to be "right", they just have to "win" politically, because "right/wrong" is meaningless beyond what those in power decide. And since population-wise, atheists are a minority while world religions have billions of followers, there is next to no chance of atheism "winning".

    Being "right" is meaningless unless one believes in a higher power, because if there isn't one, then only "might" makes "right".

    2. If there is a God or higher power, then atheism is a likely road to damnation.

    So either way, atheism as a "movement" is pointless and futile, and there's no practical reason to be an atheist, even if a person believes religions are false, they'd be better off just "doing what Romans do" and be on the winning "side" than picking the losing side which has nothing to gain in fighting a "war" against religion it can never win.
    Second thread you started on this topic, what's the matter? lost the first argument?
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    There was an argument?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
    1. If there is no God or higher power, then religions don't have to be "right", they just have to "win" politically, because "right/wrong" is meaningless beyond what those in power decide. And since population-wise, atheists are a minority while world religions have billions of followers, there is next to no chance of atheism "winning".

    Being "right" is meaningless unless one believes in a higher power, because if there isn't one, then only "might" makes "right".

    2. If there is a God or higher power, then atheism is a likely road to damnation.

    So either way, atheism as a "movement" is pointless and futile, and there's no practical reason to be an atheist, even if a person believes religions are false, they'd be better off just "doing what Romans do" and be on the winning "side" than picking the losing side which has nothing to gain in fighting a "war" against religion it can never win.
    So let me get this straight... atheism is futile because it will never "win"? Win what?

    Among all the billions and billions on Earth who have lived and have ever lived, all the various religions from Buddhist to Zorosatarian, surely the great majority wasted their time on the wrong religion. So the great majority of all humanity lost, because they picked the wrong religion, or never even knew of the existence of the "true" religion, (whichever one it actually turns out to be). So it sounds like you are arguing that one shouldn't be religious because it's more than likely you have picked the wrong one.

    I like how you think that if one doesn't actually believe in God, they should just fake it in the hopes that they will trick an all powerful, all knowing being into thinking they actually care. Personally I think it is better to just be honest about what you believe and don't believe, and let the chips fall where they may.
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    Atheist should give up ? Give up what ? Reason ? Rationality ?
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    Freethought is somewhat synonymous with democracy. That explains why our failed government is mostly controlled by republican blind faith. Trump proved that christian fundamentalists are devoid of principles. All they care about is their strength in numbers. Voting to give tax cuts to billionaires is what destroyed the working class. American christians are anti-worker

    Charlottesville sums up the republican base of christian solders. I'm pretty sure St. Peter is there to deny them entry through the pearly gates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    Freethought is somewhat synonymous with democracy. That explains why our failed government is mostly controlled by republican blind faith. Trump proved that christian fundamentalists are devoid of principles. All they care about is their strength in numbers. Voting to give tax cuts to billionaires is what destroyed the working class. American christians are anti-worker

    Charlottesville sums up the republican base of christian solders. I'm pretty sure St. Peter is there to deny them entry through the pearly gates.
    Not really...all they have to do is repent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Not really...all they have to do is repent.
    St Peter is brown.

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