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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Sorry, but Yeshayahu was not talking about your Jesus. Read the Rashi commentary. Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 9:5.
    and… called his name: The Holy One, blessed be He, Who gives wondrous counsel, is a mighty God and an everlasting Father, called Hezekiah’s name, “the prince of peace,” since peace and truth will be in his days. From your link. Was Hezekiah a mighty God an Everlasting Father? This is a skewed Commentary

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    G-d redeemed all of mankind.
    There was nothing to "redeem" all of man kind from. You are making up your own version of a messiah that has nothing to do with the Tanakh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Was Hezekiah a mighty G-d an Everlasting Father?
    That is not what it says, even in the portion you quoted.

    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    This is a skewed Commentary.
    Rashi knew the Tanakh better than you, that much is certain. You just do not like that he does not support your preconceived notions. Yeshayahu was not talking about your Jesus, and the claim that he was is a "skewed commentary."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    There was nothing to "redeem" all of man kind from. You are making up your own version of a messiah that has nothing to do with the Tanakh.
    Let me guess, you don't believe what your Torah says about Adam and Eve, the fall of man and the casting out from the Garden of Eden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Sorry, but Yeshayahu was not talking about your Jesus. Read the Rashi commentary. Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 9:5.
    Isaiah 7:14 – “All right then, the Lord Himself will choose the sign. Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call Him Immanuel – ‘God is with us.’” Another prophecy come true that Ian will ignore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    That is not what it says, even in the portion you quoted.


    Rashi knew the Tanakh better than you, that much is certain. You just do not like that he does not support your preconceived notions. Yeshayahu was not talking about your Jesus, and the claim that he was is a "skewed commentary."
    I took it right from the commentary, it called Hezikiah a Mighty God and Everlasting Father. This is why your rabbi's fail, Jesus was the Mighty God and Everlasting Father.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Let me guess, you don't believe what your Torah says about Adam and Eve, the fall of man and the casting out from the Garden of Eden.
    We have a different construction on it. There is no such thing as the "original sin" doctrine in Judaism. (It was "original" in that it was the first one, but we are not born with it.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Isaiah 7:14 – “All right then, the L-rd Himself will choose the sign. Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call Him Immanuel – ‘G-d is with us.’” Another prophecy come true that Ian will ignore
    It does not say "virgin" in Hebrew. That is deliberately mistranslated to comport with Xian doctrine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    I took it right from the commentary, it called Hezikiah a Mighty G-d and Everlasting Father.
    It was not talking about your Jesus.

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    This is why your rabbi's fail.
    Your belief in a Jewish national conspiracy is antisemitic in character.

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    Jesus was the Mighty G-d and Everlasting Father.
    Your Jesus was nothing of the kind. Yeshayahu was talking about someone else, not your Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Another prophecy come true that Ian will ignore.
    I have ignored no prophecy. You are lying and trolling again.

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