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    Which commandments do you think are superior; Yahweh’s or Gnostic Christianity’s?

    Which commandments do you think are superior; Yahweh’s or Gnostic Christianity’s?

    You may use whatever set of commandments you think Yahweh gave. There are a number of renditions.

    As for the Gnostic commandments, I offer the following.

    1. You shall place no commandments above these unless proven to be morally superior.
    2. You shall value all people as equal before the law. The inequality of outcome is punishment enough of itself.
    3. You shall live by the golden rule and respond with reciprocity of harm or care to what is done to you.
    4. Use Gnosis and put logic and reason and their proofs above faith, which by its nature has no proofs, logic or reason.
    5. You shall leave the environment in a better condition than what is given to you as an inheritance to your next generation.
    6. You shall not impoverish the next generation and live according to the means you produce as their labor and wealth is theirs and not yours to squander.

    Gnostic Christianity and free thinking lost the God wars when the Orthodox Church decimated us and burned most of our scriptures. I think that Gnostic Christians had a superior set of commandments then as well as now. Those commandments were not only meant for seekers after a God but also a guide to secular law. Both secular law and Christianity seemed to ignore the second commandment of equality till our modern era. As a Gnostic Christian, I ask (rhetorically), what took the world so long to catch up to Gnostic Christian thinking and what is Islam and other backwards thinking people waiting for.

    Many have a problem with the 10 commandments given by Yahweh so I thought I would see if there is a consensus of thought on the Gnostic Christian ideology as compared to the Christian ideology. The main complaints I see are that Yahweh’s commandments have created a Christian ideology that denies gays and women equality. I think all souls to be created equal and thus deserving of equal human statue and citizenship.

    Others as seen in these two link have their own views and I would add that I think Yahweh’s no divorce policy, --- which Jesus confirms. --- and Yahweh’s policy of accepting bribes, ransoms or sacrifices (these are all analogue) to alter his usual and moral policy punishing the guilty and not the innocent, --- to the immoral policy of punishing the innocent instead of the guilty, as exemplified by his accepting Jesus as a sacrifice to save sinners whom God himself created to be sinners.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u3z69YpLx0#t=100

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfGRN4HVrQ

    Thanks in advance for your reply.

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    We don't follow the commandments anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    We don't follow the commandments anymore.
    I know, we never have, and from what I can see of the evaluation of various moral concepts, I can understand more the reason why most people are followers and not leaders as they cannot think themselves out of a wet paper bag.

    Thank God Gnostic Christians can.

    It seems John Lennon was correct when he said the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    I know, we never have, and from what I can see of the evaluation of various moral concepts, I can understand more the reason why most people are followers and not leaders as they cannot think themselves out of a wet paper bag.

    Thank God Gnostic Christians can.

    It seems John Lennon was correct when he said the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

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    Funny how you elevate John Lennon to the status of Jesus.

    Didn't he get in trouble for saying that himself at one point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Funny how you elevate John Lennon to the status of Jesus.

    Didn't he get in trouble for saying that himself at one point?
    Where did I compare or elevate the Jesus you know to John Lennon's level?

    I do not think John was nearly as immoral as the Roman created Jesus. That Jesus' view on divorce and substitutionary punishment make him quite immoral.

    The other Jesus, the one whose ways I follow, is quite good though and likely close to John Lennon's level.

    It is impossible for me to know which was superior to the other though.

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    John Lennon's 'Imagine' is probably the most useful spiritual guide in human history. Especially if paired with "The a Dream is Over".

    "Yoko and me. That's reality"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    John Lennon's 'Imagine' is probably the most useful spiritual guide in human history. Especially if paired with "The a Dream is Over".

    "Yoko and me. That's reality"
    My wife thinks Yoko ruined him. I think she helped him mature and open his mind to reality.

    That was expressed to me by his song, Women are the N word s of the world.

    The N's still have not gotten that message or taken their step to freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    We don't follow the commandments anymore.
    Correct; in Matthew 5:17, Jesus said:

    "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
    This has been interpreted to mean that Jesus came to abolish the laws as defined by the prophets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Correct; in Matthew 5:17, Jesus said:



    This has been interpreted to mean that Jesus came to abolish the laws as defined by the prophets.
    That's pretty much the understanding yes.

    However, Jesus did reiterate 9 out of 10 of them however so basically we still follow them.

    I forget which one he left out.

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    Which commandments do you think are superior; Yahweh’s or Gnostic Christianity’s?

    Neither holds a candle to the Pentabarf.

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