Page 7 of 47 FirstFirst ... 5678917 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 461
Thanks Tree70Thanks

Thread: A brif History of (Christian) God

  1. #61
    Veteran Member Isalexi's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    33,687
    Thanks
    20982

    From
    Maryland
    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Man has a choice between Good and Evil. Man has free will to choose, but expect the consequences of those choices
    Does man have free will to choose to die in agony in an earthquake or a hurricane or a tsunami? Why would God not rescue these people who I’m sure are praying to him? Imagine if a child is drowning in a lake and I have the ability to pull him out and I don’t do anything want to see me as malevolent?

  2. #62
    Veteran Member aboutenough's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    51,783
    Thanks
    2799

    From
    Washington state
    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Good, then you can't compare wiping out group of extreme ideology with that of commanding the genocide of an entire race. I'm glad we agree that genocide is not an appropriate response to violence, or acts of war. So, do everyone a favour, and don't make that absurd analogy again. Just accept the fact that you worship a God that commended genocide.
    I would agree with you as long as you wouldn't let one person live that belongs to the ideology that wants Americans dead. Something tells me you have a bleeding heart for murderers

  3. #63
    Veteran Member aboutenough's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    51,783
    Thanks
    2799

    From
    Washington state
    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    No it's not. That would only be an accurate analogy if, after touching the hot stove, your parents burned you, your sister, and your dog alive for disobeying them. You keep trying to make these absurd analogies that are in no way similar to what your God allegedly did.
    No, not really people were warned about continuing sin and they ignored the warnings. This is why God put prophets on earth to warn people. Noah warned people of the coming flood from God's judgement and they mocked him and laughed it off.

  4. #64
    Veteran Member Czernobog's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    34,843
    Thanks
    17364

    From
    Phoenix, AZ
    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    I would agree with you as long as you wouldn't let one person live that belongs to the ideology that wants Americans dead. Something tells me you have a bleeding heart for murderers
    You presume that everyone who shares the jihadist ideology has actually killed someone. UNless you can demonstrate that, you nake a grave error. Now, would I be opposed to killing those who are actively trying to kill Americans? Absolutely not. However, I am a firm believer that those who have been indoctrinated, can also be deprogrammed. So, children, and others who have not actually committed acts of violence, but have been indoctrinated into the jihadist cause? No. I would not agree that they should be killed.

    Any more than I would agree that Christian fanatics should be killed. Anyone who has been indoctrinated can be deprogrammed, and educated.

  5. #65
    Veteran Member Czernobog's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    34,843
    Thanks
    17364

    From
    Phoenix, AZ
    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    No, not really people were warned about continuing sin and they ignored the warnings. This is why God put prophets on earth to warn people. Noah warned people of the coming flood from God's judgement and they mocked him and laughed it off.
    No amount of "warning" justifies genocide. So, if I warn you repeatedly, that you had better start being nicer to me, and you refuse, then I am perfectly justified in raping, and killing your daughters, feeding your sons to my hounds, killing, butchering, and cooking up your wife, and feeding her to you, right before I behead you? REALLY?!?!? Most people would call the person who does that a despot. But, hey. I guess with your superior moral compass, and your divinely inspired ethics, you have a more enlightened view of such behaviour than the rest of us.

  6. #66
    Veteran Member aboutenough's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    51,783
    Thanks
    2799

    From
    Washington state
    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Does man have free will to choose to die in agony in an earthquake or a hurricane or a tsunami? Why would God not rescue these people who I’m sure are praying to him? Imagine if a child is drowning in a lake and I have the ability to pull him out and I don’t do anything want to see me as malevolent?
    That reminds me of a story about a man in a flood. There was a man that came knocking on his door warning him of the coming flood. The man denied the help and said God would save him. The water surrounded the house and the man was standing on the roof and a helicopter flew overhead and offered the man a rope ladder to the copter. He refused the help and told them God was going to save him. Next a boat came up to his house and offered him a ride in the boat to land. He refused the help and told them God would save him. Finally the flood came over the house and the man died. When the man went to heaven he asked God why he didn't save him. God replied "I sent a man to warn you of the coming flood and you didn't listen. I sent a man flying a helicopter to rescue you and you denied the help. Then I sent a man in a boat to take you to land and you still refused the help. Point is this, God helps you thru his people.

  7. #67
    Veteran Member aboutenough's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    51,783
    Thanks
    2799

    From
    Washington state
    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    You presume that everyone who shares the jihadist ideology has actually killed someone. UNless you can demonstrate that, you nake a grave error. Now, would I be opposed to killing those who are actively trying to kill Americans? Absolutely not. However, I am a firm believer that those who have been indoctrinated, can also be deprogrammed. So, children, and others who have not actually committed acts of violence, but have been indoctrinated into the jihadist cause? No. I would not agree that they should be killed.

    Any more than I would agree that Christian fanatics should be killed. Anyone who has been indoctrinated can be deprogrammed, and educated.
    Have Christians been killing people here in America? Would like some examples of who they are killing?

  8. #68
    Veteran Member aboutenough's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    51,783
    Thanks
    2799

    From
    Washington state
    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    No amount of "warning" justifies genocide. So, if I warn you repeatedly, that you had better start being nicer to me, and you refuse, then I am perfectly justified in raping, and killing your daughters, feeding your sons to my hounds, killing, butchering, and cooking up your wife, and feeding her to you, right before I behead you? REALLY?!?!? Most people would call the person who does that a despot. But, hey. I guess with your superior moral compass, and your divinely inspired ethics, you have a more enlightened view of such behaviour than the rest of us.
    There is warning all thru the Bible. Disobey those warnings and expect death or destruction of your life, that's just a fact. Murder someone and expect the death penalty or life in prison. Rob a bank and expect many years in prison. There is Gods laws and American laws of which both deal with bad behaviors .

  9. #69
    Veteran Member Czernobog's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    34,843
    Thanks
    17364

    From
    Phoenix, AZ
    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    There is warning all thru the Bible. Disobey those warnings and expect death or destruction of your life, that's just a fact.
    Uh...that's what I said. You're God is a cruel despot. You make that statement as if it somehow makes your God something he is not. It doesn't. You only confirm what I said. Oh. And by the way, behaving yourself is no guarantee that your cruel despot of a God won't fuck you. Just as Job. And please don't remind me that he "got it all back" in the end. The only person who would ever claim that is the one who has never lost a child. Trust me you can't replace that.
    Last edited by Czernobog; 1st October 2017 at 02:29 PM.

  10. #70
    Veteran Member aboutenough's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    51,783
    Thanks
    2799

    From
    Washington state
    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Uh...that's what I said. You're God is a cruel despot. You make that statement as if it somehow makes your God something he is not. It doesn't. You only confirm what I said. Oh. And by the way, behaving yourself is no guarantee that your cruel despot of a God won't fuck you. Just as Job. And please don't remind me that he "got it all back" in the end. The only person who would ever claim that is the one who has never lost a child. Trust me you can't replace that.
    God warns you how not to destroy your life, but i can see you blame him for you not listening. first problem you have is you are filled with hate towards God for whatever reason. second problem you think God is out to get you rather then being a guiding light. Stop being a pessimist and be an optimist . Job was after the testing of his faith and all was returned to him

Page 7 of 47 FirstFirst ... 5678917 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 18
    Last Post: 26th July 2016, 08:04 PM
  2. Replies: 112
    Last Post: 17th February 2014, 06:43 PM
  3. major discovery of Christian history
    By Divine Wind in forum Philosophy and Religion
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 1st April 2011, 03:20 AM
  4. Re-writing History With The Christian Right and the GOP
    By Spooky in forum Philosophy and Religion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 27th January 2011, 06:32 AM
  5. Christian Politicians Should Start Acting Christian
    By Gypsy in forum Philosophy and Religion
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 8th September 2010, 05:55 AM

Tags for this Thread


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed