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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Hating on "science" isn't really the same as hating on a religious, ethnic, or similar demographic. Perhaps some of these flat-earthers are critical of scientists - but it's rare that they'll verbally attack specific individuals in the scientific community. "Hating on science" is very different from "hating scientists."
    Whats strange is one of the prominent figures in the flat earth society apparently does believe in global warming. So they cant hate all science.

    "Strangely, Wilmore and the society's president, a 35-year-old Virginia-born Londoner named Daniel Shenton, both think the evidence for global warming is strong, despite much of this evidence coming from satellite data gathered by NASA, the kingpin of the "round Earth conspiracy." They also accept evolution and most other mainstream tenets of science."

    https://www.livescience.com/24310-fl...th-belief.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    I wondered too. A friend passed on the link to a website for a US based flat earth "club" or whatever they called themselves. At first I thought the whole thing was just a spoof, but damn, those dudes were serious.

    This isn't the same one I saw before but: https://www.tfes.org/

    And there are a ton of them, another one: https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/
    I had heard of them but was astounded to find out they had a chapter on some college campuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    I'd always presumed that flat earthers were "fake," in the sense that they don't genuinely believe the earth is flat. They join such groups because a) it ensures them a measure of attention with virtually no effort, and b) it allows them to be a part of a group that doesn't define itself by hating other groups.

    It's similar to people who claim to have been abducted by aliens, and hang out all night near Area 51, hoping to see some odd lights. They're not (necessarily) deluded... they're lonely. And being a member of this small, well-known club with rather simple membership requirements helps them cope.
    Wait, you've never seen a UFO? I've seen tons of them. At least 10 different occasions I can recall, with other people, no idea what the hell is going on up there but it ain't loneliness.

    I think you have to be more than lonely to go flat-earther. You have to really be on the outside looking in, completely disenfranchised, probably really socially inept, nobody taking you seriously, lots of rejection, etc. It's not loneliness, really. It's "Ha! All those dummies who reject me relentlessly are totally wrong, and the reason they don't get me is because I'm too smart for them."

    I think this is a big motivator for a lot of nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I had heard of them but was astounded to find out they had a chapter on some college campuses.
    If you start a college club called "People Who Stand on Hats," I'm sure you'll get a high turnout. Especially if events include free food or drink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    If you start a college club called "People Who Stand on Hats," I'm sure you'll get a high turnout. Especially if events include free food or drink.
    I suppose so but it shocked me as it was an engineering school. I wouldn't think flat earthers would exist there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    Wait, you've never seen a UFO? I've seen tons of them. At least 10 different occasions I can recall, with other people, no idea what the hell is going on up there but it ain't loneliness.
    Sure, I've seen a few things in the sky that I couldn't readily identify. However, I'm not an expert on aircraft, atmospheric optics, etc., and I expect that such an expert could readily identify that which I could not.

    I think you have to be more than lonely to go flat-earther. You have to really be on the outside looking in, completely disenfranchised, probably really socially inept, nobody taking you seriously, lots of rejection, etc. It's not loneliness, really. It's "Ha! All those dummies who reject me relentlessly are totally wrong, and the reason they don't get me is because I'm too smart for them."

    I think this is a big motivator for a lot of nonsense.
    You'd be surprised. Lots of people would be thrilled to have "nobody taking them seriously," as an alternative to "nobody even listening to them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I suppose so but it shocked me as it was an engineering school. I wouldn't think flat earthers would exist there.
    I obtained my undergrad degree from an engineering school. I was a member of Delta Iota Kappa; an informal organization with only three purposes:

    1) Mock the fraternity / sorority system
    2) Eat food
    3) Hold events to facilitate #1 and #2

    The hazing process involved having someone unexpectedly bounce a wiffle ball off your head, and saying "Ok, you're in."

    At its core, it was just a social group; an excuse to get together with like-minded people and have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Whats strange is one of the prominent figures in the flat earth society apparently does believe in global warming. So they cant hate all science.

    "Strangely, Wilmore and the society's president, a 35-year-old Virginia-born Londoner named Daniel Shenton, both think the evidence for global warming is strong, despite much of this evidence coming from satellite data gathered by NASA, the kingpin of the "round Earth conspiracy." They also accept evolution and most other mainstream tenets of science."

    https://www.livescience.com/24310-fl...th-belief.html
    If you believe in a flat earth, but accept the moon as an object hovering over earth, there's no issue for them to also accept satellites to be hovering over a flat earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Actually it isn't. There is some movement amongst modern youth that believe this. Some new guy just recently re-introduced it. Its spread to more of Europe and Canada as well. Unbelievable. Social media has helped it..

    "Plenty of celebs have been quite vocal with their beliefs. For instance, on Jan. 25, 2016, rapper-singer Bobby Ray Simmons Jr. (known as B.o.B) released a track called "Flatline" in which he disses astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, after the two had a Twitter battle over the spherical-ness of the planet. B.o.B is convinced Earth is flat."

    https://www.livescience.com/24310-fl...th-belief.html

    But he hopefully believes it's a flat CIRCLE, at least ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    I'm curious if there are any actual Flat Earth proponents on our forum. This is not meant as flame bait, or sarcasm; I really want to know if we have any, and how they support their position.
    I'm more of a "Hollow Earth" theory guy.

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