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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    You're an atheist, but far from evangelical about it? [snip] That's like saying "I'm a great swimmer, but only when there is no water involved."
    Not at all. Most atheists do not have as their main purpose in life the conversion of everyone to atheism. Contrast the world's two largest religions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Note that this does not apply to all religions, only the "evangelical" ones.
    True.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Not at all. Most atheists do not have as their main purpose in life the conversion of everyone to atheism. Contrast the world's two largest religions.
    Indeed, it's not an issue in life until an acolyte starts spruiking his or her belief system at one. Those I meet daily in Australia do not discuss the issue and it is mainly when I'm in the US, or on the internet fora where I encounter this attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Not at all. Most atheists do not have as their main purpose in life the conversion of everyone to atheism. Contrast the world's two largest religions.
    Yeah, my main goal is not to "convert" anyone to atheism. My primary goal is to remove mythology, and superstition from my secular government, and to provide young people with an alternative to religious indoctrination, so that they can decide for themselves what is, and is not rational thinking.

    In fact, truth be told, I would love to be converted from my atheism. Doing so would be quite easy. Simply provide me with observable, objective, verifiable evidence of the existence of God. I have yet to find anyone capable of doing so.
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    Being an atheist doesn't really take guts. At least, not in the U.S. Being an atheist in Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc ... - that takes guts.

    On the other hand, being an atheist openly in the U.S. ... that takes some guts. Some people put pro-atheism bumper stickers on their cars. I'm an atheist, and I don't. This is partly because I'm a purist and hate the idea of putting stickers on my car's bumper. But also because I don't need some god-fearing hick scratching the paint on my car in the name of their god.

    If I wasn't hiding behind a pseudonym on PH, I'd be leery about advertising my lack of belief in the divine. After all, I've no idea which of my friends, bosses, co-workers - and future acquaintances would see my posts, and draw their conclusions from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Being an atheist doesn't really take guts. At least, not in the U.S. Being an atheist in Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc ... - that takes guts.

    On the other hand, being an atheist openly in the U.S. ... that takes some guts. Some people put pro-atheism bumper stickers on their cars. I'm an atheist, and I don't. This is partly because I'm a purist and hate the idea of putting stickers on my car's bumper. But also because I don't need some god-fearing hick scratching the paint on my car in the name of their god.

    If I wasn't hiding behind a pseudonym on PH, I'd be leery about advertising my lack of believe in the divine. After all, I've no idea which of my friends, bosses, co-workers - and future acquaintances would see my posts, and draw their conclusions from them.
    So THAT's why you pixilated your pic!
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    Atheism does take guts. It's a gamble on eternity. If the belief in Jesus and eternal life is true, the athiest has lost everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ Allen View Post
    Atheism does take guts. It's a gamble on eternity. If the belief in Jesus and eternal life is true, the athiest has lost everything.
    Pascal's Wager is childish, and proposes a "belief" that is not sincere. And that is apart from the fact that your statement is illogical due to posing a false dilemma - i.e., both atheism and Xianity can be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Pascal's Wager is childish, and proposes a "belief" that is not sincere. And that is apart from the fact that your statement is illogical due to posing a false dilemma - i.e., both atheism and Xianity can be wrong.
    Yes, that's possible. However, Christianity can also be the way, the truth andd the life. It's possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ Allen View Post
    Yes, that's possible. However, Christianity can also be the way, the truth andd the life. It's possible.
    In the same way that Judaism could be true. Or Buddhism, or Hinduism. Or Islam. Or any of various other religions around the world. Saying "it's possible" gets you absolutely nowhere. It is more likely that your original statement is false.
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