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    Mad Genius For Hire Puzzling Evidence's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Even assuming that is true (it is not), hating Xians is not the same as opposing G-d - any more than Xians who hated Jews for centuries were "anti-theist." Your proposition is nonsensical.
    If you hate Christians, you hate God. This is true in ANY religion on the face of the earth.

    Repeat after me:

    C-h-r-i-s-t-i-a-n-s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    If you hate Christians, you hate G-d. This is true in ANY religion on the face of the earth.
    That makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    See, that's the realisation I'm coming to. Even were we to manage to "prove" the existence of deity, while I could no loner deny existence, I could certainly refuse to support/worship. And anyone who wanted me to support the Christian God would have to go a long way to reconcile for me their "God of love, and inclusion" with the actual written record of his actions.
    It's humans that demand worship, not gods. And since humans created gods, its no wonder they have human like qualities like having to be worshipped. The people of the time the stories of christianity were being written, humans routinely worshipped their leadeers. They were viewed as gods. So no wonder why humans make god out to require worship.

    If there was proof of a god, that most certainly wouldn't demand worship
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    That isn't atheism, it's agnosticism.
    meh. you may call it what you like. I identify as atheist. The agnostics I encounter refuse to take a position: "I don't know, so I refuse to say one way or the other,"

    I am taking a position: God does not exist. The difference between me, and a theist is that my position is a premise, and presented with objective evidence, I will change my position, while the theist is stating their conclusion, and regardless of evidence, or lack thereof, will refuse to budge, and will either ignore evidence that doesn't fit their conclusion, or will find a way to twist it to fit with their conclusion. The agnostic, meanwhile, insists that, since the evidence is "inconclusive", refuses to take a position either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    So, again, with your scenario, God is petty, capricious, and gives not a single fuck about human life. Either commit genocide, or I'll let everyone die. You realise you're not really making a very good case for God, right?

    now why would i want to make a good case for god? Just pointing out holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    'Mass shooting' at church in Texas

    See comment #4.

    PH is full of comments like these.
    That's not hatred. It is kinda ironic.

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    Just a note to Atheist. No person will ever convince you that God exist absolutely. Only a revelation of God himself will convince you of his existence. That can happen many ways, but it usually happens when you hit bottom in life and you have found you have come very close to destroying your life on your own and you begin to look for answers. If someone talks you into believing in God, someone else may talk you out of it, or you will find reasons to hate God for a lost loved one. It boils down to whether you want to know God or not. If you do, he is available, forgiving and willing to assist you in life.

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