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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    'where do they go? They either go to heaven or hell.
    Or six feet under or cremated...period

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    Nah, I'm just saying you've just traded ancient beliefs in omnipotent ghosts for secular beliefs like Humanism which claim to be the "only correct belief system".

    I mean, you just blindly believe that a philosophy which originated with a dead Frenchman who bastardized the Catholic Church and tried to create his own cult with the Virgin Mary replaced with a woman who rejected him is the "only correct secular belief", and that all opposing ones are wrong:

    (Here's where all of your beliefs originated, just in case you didn't know):

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...azil-1.2051387

    So why is Humanism the only "correct" secular philosophy out there? Why not Existentialism, or Postmodernism, Epicurianism, or LeVeyan Satanism, or anything else?

    People are gonna believe what they believe, ultimately though the point is that faith in a secular philosophy like Humanism is really just another comforting belief based more on emotion, upbringing, or things like that - if your only claim to greatness is that your philosophy "doesn't bring ghosts or fairies into it" that's... not impressive to say the least.
    I don't defend stupid shit shat forth by cultists that try and lower the intellect of atheists down to their level. Not sure why you think I would defend or explains shit you invoked, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Or six feet under or cremated...period
    Cremated, put in shotgun shells, and handed out to my friends and family to blast off. That is how I am going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    I don't defend stupid shit shat forth by cultists that try and lower the intellect of atheists down to their level.
    The article about the "Cult of Humanity" I linked is simply what your belief system originated as after the French Revolution and the history of its founder (Auguste Comte), so why are you so weak that you can't defend it, and why are you so afraid to question the quaint beliefs in Humanism you were raised in?

    My argument is, that I'm above you and yours since I have no need for any organized system like the Catholic Church of yore, nor any other alternative, secular cult like Humanism which minus the myths, isn't much different in practice, and doesn't have much to do with actual "science" as much as it has to do with just idolizing the philosophy of a dead Frenchmen and his peers.


    Not sure why you think I would defend or explains shit you invoked, not me.
    Not defend your own Secular Humanism?

    I assume it's because your faith in your Cult of Humanity is so weak, you only ever try to defend it against slightly dumber cultists who believe the earth is 6,000 years old.

    And when you run a skeptical person like me who has even at least freshman level understanding of secular philosophy, you chicken out, He he.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
    The article about the "Cult of Humanity" I linked is simply what your belief system originated and the history of its founder, so why are you so weak that you can't defend it?

    My argument is, that I'm above you and yours since I have no need for any organized system like the Catholic Church of yore, nor any other alternative, secular cult like Humanism.

    My argument is that I'm above and beyond , and you're both nearly on the same level


    I merely stated a fact

    Given that I'm , I'd say I'm above your level.
    Not really. that is you falsely claiming what my belief system is, trying to drag me down to the cultist level, trying to claim your silly nonsense about Jewish ghosts and angels is on par with reality.

    I don;t defend the dhit you invoke there buddy. Your links claiming what i am are utter tripe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Not really. that is you falsely claiming what my belief system is, trying to drag me down to the cultist level, trying to claim your silly nonsense about Jewish ghosts and angels is on par with reality.

    I don;t defend the dhit you invoke there buddy. Your links claiming what i am are utter tripe.
    This clown tries to conflate atheism with secular humanism continually although the two aren't necessarily related. Secular Humanists are atheists, but not all atheists are secular humanists. The OP has poor reasoning skills and requires extensive use of logical fallacies to make his erroneous contention appear to work, however, he fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
    The article about the "Cult of Humanity" I linked is simply what your belief system originated as after the French Revolution and the history of its founder (Auguste Comte), so why are you so weak that you can't defend it, and why are you so afraid to question the quaint beliefs in Humanism you were raised in?

    My argument is, that I'm above you and yours since I have no need for any organized system like the Catholic Church of yore, nor any other alternative, secular cult like Humanism which minus the myths, isn't much different in practice, and doesn't have much to do with actual "science" as much as it has to do with just idolizing the philosophy of a dead Frenchmen and his peers.



    Not defend your own Secular Humanism?

    I assume it's because your faith in your Cult of Humanity is so weak, you only ever try to defend it against slightly dumber cultists who believe the earth is 6,000 years old.

    And when you run a skeptical person like me who has even at least freshman level understanding of secular philosophy, you chicken out, He he.
    Why do conflate atheism with secular humanism? Why are you a liar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Not really. that is you falsely claiming what my belief system is, trying to drag me down to the cultist level, trying to claim your silly nonsense about Jewish ghosts and angels is on par with reality.
    @Think for myself

    Kid, If you keep lying, i'm reporting you.

    I've said several times I don't believe any world religion's myths are fact (Christian, Muslim, Jewish, otherwise), I merely asserted I have some understanding of secular philosophy (which I don't think you have even a HS level understanding of based on the nonsensical posts you keep making) and am skeptical of Humanism.

    So you're either just being daft, or intentionally lying about me to make it look like you're debating a Christian fundamentalist so you can win the argument.

    (Hint, the argument is that your belief in Humanism is essentially on par with believing in Jewish ghosts, and that mine are better than either of those, since they aren't based in blind faith in man-made systems, religious or secular).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
    @Think for myself

    Wow, If you keep lying, i'm reporting you. I've said several times I don't believe any world religion's myths are fact (Christian, Muslim, Jewish, otherwise), I merely asserted I have some understanding of secular philosophy (which I don't think you have even a HS level understanding of based on the nonsensical posts you keep making) and am skeptical of Humanism.

    So you're either just being daft, or intentionally lying to make it look like you're debating a Christian fundamentalist so you can win the argument.
    But you have no problem with lying. Why the duplicity? You do not have much understanding of philosophy and the little you do know you are employing erroneously.

    You conflate secular humanism with atheism. That is dishonest especially as you've been shown the difference continuously and you are unable to defend your contention.

    You are no better than the scum who conflate atheism with Nazism or Communism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    This clown tries to conflate atheism with secular humanism continually although the two aren't necessarily related. Secular Humanists are atheists, but not all atheists are secular humanists. The OP has poor reasoning skills and requires extensive use of logical fallacies to make his erroneous contention appear to work, however, he fails.
    No that's the point I made before about Sade and the "libertine" philosophy.

    TFM is conflating atheists with Humanists by asserting that all atheists understand why people should be compassionate; point is that atheism and compassion aren't mutually exclusive; Sade and the libertine philosophy are an example.

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