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Thread: Why isn't starving children a good thing if one is an atheist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
    Fair enough, religious myths are what you don't believe, but if someone doesn't identify with anything (values, philosophy, etc - secular or otherwise) that they do believe, then there's not much to discuss.
    Excellent. Shall you then request your thread be closed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
    So you're comparing Humanism to White Nationalism?

    I'm aware there's a difference between "not believing in a god" and believing in the Humanist philosophy, problem is that most atheist organizations in the US (such as FFRF) identify with Humanism, and use the terms interchangeably themselves.

    Point of the argument is that an atheist doesn't have to be a Humanist, or view human life as more special than animal life.
    An atheist can certainly view humans as having more moral value than lower animals, for the very reason that I expressed in my first post...which you skipped right over, and ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
    My experience is that most self-identified "atheists" online are either:

    Nihilists - Usually just angsty teens who listen to Cradle of Filth and post Nietzsche memes; hate everything and want to see the world burn

    Secular Humanists - Want to 'evangelize' their Humanist values and spread the 'good news' of Humanism to the unwashed god-bothering heathens, almost always liberals

    Objectivists - Ayn Rand worshipers

    Singularity worshipers - Ray Kurzweil / Eliezer Yudkowsky cultists who think they'll be able to upload their mind into a computer and live forever
    Yeah...I'm not any of those. I can't say that I have ever even heard Kurzwell, or Yudkowsky, let alone read any of their works, Rand is a bit too enamoured with unbridled capitalism for my taste, Humanists have some valid points, but I agree with you that they make some rather irrational leaps in their positions, and Nihilism is just plain stupid; rather about as intellectually bankrupt as anarchy.

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