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    Veteran Member carpe diem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    I have noticed that in several discussions I have with Christians, the point of contention seems to be in attempting to separate the Bible into two parts - the part that must be accepted as accurate (The New Testament), and the part that doesn't (The Old Testament).

    So, I have a question. The creation Truth Foundation, in their statement of faith, claims, “The unique divine inspiration of all the canonical books of the Old and New Testaments as originally given, so that they are infallibly and uniquely authoritative and free from error of any sort, in all matters with which they deal, scientific and historical as well as moral and theological.

    I would ask the Christians on this forum if they agree with that statement, bearing in mind:

    First, they make no distinction between the Old, and the New Testament, and
    Second, paying particular attention to the highlighted portion.
    The inerrancy of Scripture, that the Bible, Old and New Testaments, is the inspired, infallible Word of God.

    - Summed up in one word - Reconciliation

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    The inerrancy of Scripture, that the Bible, Old and New Testaments, is the inspired, infallible Word of God.

    - Summed up in one word - Reconciliation
    So, if inerrant, would you submit that it is 100% accurate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Actually, yeah it does. Because if the Bible insists that all of those things happened (it does), and they didn't (the evidence, and science rather dictates that they couldn't have), then the bible as a reliable source is...compromised, at best. So, if the Bible is known to be unreliable, why should any of that heaven stuff - the very stuff you insist is the most important part of the Bible - be given any credence at all?
    When the Bible says "great flood" we don't actually know what that means.

    So yes, everything in the Bible is accurate, that doesn't mean we understand it all however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    When the Bible says "great flood" we don't actually know what that means.

    So yes, everything in the Bible is accurate, that doesn't mean we understand it all however.
    Well, except that God did say he was going to, "...destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will perish." (Gen. 6:17) So, actually we do have a pretty good idea what was meant by "Great Flood". Guess what? There is absolutely zero evidence that that ever happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    EVERY religion's Holy Book claims to be the word of God. *shrug*
    An example of a holy book where exists a claim to be the word of god and where the bible is not the original, the archetype, the prototype? I would say not even the "holy" US-American constitution or the "holy" human rights would exist withtout the bible. I don't think by the way the people, who try to destroy all fundaments are not "fundamentalists" too, because ignorance and idiocy was a fundament a long time before the bible started to exist. Only because someone is able to use the words "not" or "no" or "do not believe" or ... nothing becomes true. "Everything is true"="nothing is wrong" is not our daily experience. And this is not the way of the "holy" science too, where also only one common truth is existing - otherwise the "holy" methods of science would be irrelevant.

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    Another "Christians are wrong" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Another "Christians are wrong" thread.

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    And yet, you found it interesting enough to comment on. Thanks for trolling by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    And yet, you found it interesting enough to comment on. Thanks for trolling by.
    Trolling your troll thread? That's pretty rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Well, except that God did say he was going to, "...destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will perish." (Gen. 6:17) So, actually we do have a pretty good idea what was meant by "Great Flood". Guess what? There is absolutely zero evidence that that ever happened.
    And where's the evidence it will not happen? To read what the people in the past speak about is not easy - damn, ... German grammar - in English it is "spoke about", this forms your ways to be able to think. We often use the presence in case of the past and in case of the future. Perhaps that's why Albert Einstein said "Time is only an illusion."? Did you hear by the way that serious physicists are thinking about space could be a result of entanglement of elementary somethings? So why not to find an evidence tomorrow? Why are atheists often so all knowing today? And if we will never find any evidence for Noahs Arch - perhaps there is or will be a very good reason for? I'm always astonished that every child understands the story of Noah and the arch: "How evil and bad the world might be - god will save you and all life with your own help, as long as you trust in him and try to go his way." So what about to start to build your arch and to save all life? ... Ah ... you need an evidence to start to do what makes sense - only because "everyone" says it's senseless to do so without evidence only on reason of belief and trust?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    When the Bible says "great flood" we don't actually know what that means.

    So yes, everything in the Bible is accurate, that doesn't mean we understand it all however.
    We're not totally in the dark.

    Genesis 7:19-20

    And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth, and all the high hills that were under the whole heaven were covered.

    Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail, and the mountains were covered.

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