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    Is the Bible the inerrent word of God?

    I have noticed that in several discussions I have with Christians, the point of contention seems to be in attempting to separate the Bible into two parts - the part that must be accepted as accurate (The New Testament), and the part that doesn't (The Old Testament).

    So, I have a question. The creation Truth Foundation, in their statement of faith, claims, “The unique divine inspiration of all the canonical books of the Old and New Testaments as originally given, so that they are infallibly and uniquely authoritative and free from error of any sort, in all matters with which they deal, scientific and historical as well as moral and theological.

    I would ask the Christians on this forum if they agree with that statement, bearing in mind:

    First, they make no distinction between the Old, and the New Testament, and
    Second, paying particular attention to the highlighted portion.

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    Lot offered his young daughters up as sexual toys for his house guests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    Lot offered his young daughters up as sexual toys for his house guests.
    Actually, it was to a crowd clamoring for the house guests to be produced for use as sexual toys. He offered his daughters instead. Not my first choice for Senator, admittedly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Actually, it was to a crowd clamoring for the house guests to be produced for use as sexual toys. He offered his daughters instead. Not my first choice for Senator, admittedly....
    No offence Ian, but you don't count. Being Jewish, you, obviously, will have a different theological position on the Bible, than Christians will. That is why I am, specifically, directing my question to the Christians on the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    I have noticed that in several discussions I have with Christians, the point of contention seems to be in attempting to separate the Bible into two parts - the part that must be accepted as accurate (The New Testament), and the part that doesn't (The Old Testament).

    So, I have a question. The creation Truth Foundation, in their statement of faith, claims, “The unique divine inspiration of all the canonical books of the Old and New Testaments as originally given, so that they are infallibly and uniquely authoritative and free from error of any sort, in all matters with which they deal, scientific and historical as well as moral and theological.

    I would ask the Christians on this forum if they agree with that statement, bearing in mind:

    First, they make no distinction between the Old, and the New Testament, and
    Second, paying particular attention to the highlighted portion.
    Is the Bible the inerrent word of God?
    NO. It is the very flawed words of men written to control the simple people's fear of their own mortality...and give the men who wrote it power over them by promising a better 'life' after death if they follow the "rules" written by the men seeking power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    NO. It is the very flawed words of men written to control the simple people's fear of their own mortality...and give the men who wrote it power over them by promising a better 'life' after death if they follow the "rules" written by the men seeking power.
    Yeah...there's a reason I was directing the question to Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    I have noticed that in several discussions I have with Christians, the point of contention seems to be in attempting to separate the Bible into two parts - the part that must be accepted as accurate (The New Testament), and the part that doesn't (The Old Testament).

    So, I have a question. The creation Truth Foundation, in their statement of faith, claims, “The unique divine inspiration of all the canonical books of the Old and New Testaments as originally given, so that they are infallibly and uniquely authoritative and free from error of any sort, in all matters with which they deal, scientific and historical as well as moral and theological.

    I would ask the Christians on this forum if they agree with that statement, bearing in mind:

    First, they make no distinction between the Old, and the New Testament, and
    Second, paying particular attention to the highlighted portion.
    The Bible is a book of Redemption and how it was accomplished. The Old Testament predicts the one coming for redemption and the New Testament tells us how it was accomplished. Its not a science or history book. Its a book on Redemption and Faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    The Bible is a book of Redemption and how it was accomplished. The Old Testament predicts the one coming for redemption and the New Testament tells us how it was accomplished. Its not a science or history book. Its a book on Redemption and Faith.
    So you are saying that you do not ageree with the Creation Truth's statement?

    Joshua 1:7-8 (NIV): Be strong and very courageous. Be careful to obey all the law my servant Moses gave to you; do not turn from it to the right or to the left, that you may be successful wherever you go. Keep this Book of the Law on your lips; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful.

    Matthew 4:4 (NIV): Jesus answered, “It is written; ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

    2 Timothy 3:16-17 (NIV): All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

    James 2:10 (NIV): For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

    The Bible, itself, seems to disagree with you. Does it not make sense, since Christians also believe that God is the “Alpha and Omega”, the God who never changes, so of course the morality and examples as demonstrated by the historical events shown in the early Bible would still hold true for us today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    NO. It is the very flawed words of men written to control the simple people's fear of their own mortality...and give the men who wrote it power over them by promising a better 'life' after death if they follow the "rules" written by the men seeking power.
    This is true. The Catholics started it and please look at all the money they have earned with nothing to sell but lies. Sanctioned lies. The people are obviously morons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    This is true. The Catholics started it and please look at all the money they have earned with nothing to sell but lies. Sanctioned lies. The people are obviously morons.
    Pull up google images and input Megachurch. Just wow.

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