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    A few truisms from the perspective of an atheist

    1. Atheists Do not:
      1. Hate God - There is no God.
      2. Worship Satan - There is no Satan.
      3. Hate Christians - Christians were all born atheists, and then had religion forced upon them.
      4. Eat Babies - There are no words for for the kind of deranged and deplorable imagination that thought this up.
      5. Lack morals - Every person has a sense of right and wrong regardless of whether they have a book of fairy tales to tell them what right and wrong is.

    2. Creationists like to ask, "How do you know the Big Bang happened? Were you there?" Yeah....right. Because I'm sure you were right there picking up shells while toddling along the bottom of the Red Sea, as the water was standing as two walls, waiting for you to cross, right?
    3. “Evolution is just a theory” demonstrates an almost criminal misunderstanding of what a scientific theory actually is. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation. The non-scientific word theory refers to a guess or conjecture, a contemplation or speculation. In science, this latter definition is actually called a hypothesis. The two terms are not interchangeable.
    4. As is the case with justice, it is the burden of the party making an assertive claim to offer proof of said claim. As in a criminal trial by jury, the prosecution needs to offer objective evidence that events took place a certain way. The job of the defence is to show why the arguments of the prosecution are not valid. In such a court situation, the prosecution could never say “Well, this book says that such and such happened on the night of July 15th, therefore it is true.” The referenced book would immediately be questioned along the lines of who the author was, what their intentions and motivations were, when it was written, whether the writers were credible and in their right minds, etc. Since this horse shit doesn’t work in a trial, why do we suffer it to work for explanations of the entire universe? When science makes a claim, it is substantiated with plenty of objective evidence, yet when a religion claims something, the only justification is “well, there must be a God because we have sunsets.” Ah, of course, why didn’t we silly scientists think of that? And “You can’t prove God doesn’t exist” is the coward’s shifting of the burden of proof.
    5. Science and theism cannot co-exist. At all. They are opposite, nemeses, antonyms, call it whatever you wish. Anyone who claims to live by both is fooling themselves and not truly following either.


    These are just a few things that most atheists can agree on. And I, personally, don't think a single one of them is unreasonable.
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    1. I can't hate what I don't think exists, however, I do hate aspects of the dogma as some are highly questionable.

    2. Nope, no Satan either-horror movie fodder

    3. No, I hate the ideology not the members, although some members can be disgusting individuals, but so are some atheists.

    4. That is just so stupid and merely the musings of inbreds I expect.

    5. That one too is a joke. They presume that morality comes from God, so the godless must be immoral. That is simply an example of poor logic.
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    I was an atheist and I hated God.

    Guess that proves this thread wrong doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I was an atheist and I hated God.

    Guess that proves this thread wrong doesn't it?
    How did that work? You were an atheist - which means you did not believe that God existed. Yet, you hated God. Do you also hate unicorns, leprechauns, or goblins? The very fact that you insist that you hated God belies your claim that you were atheist. How do you hate something that does not exist?

    It would seem that you anti-theist. That is something very different than atheism. That is actively hating, and opposing God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I was an atheist and I hated God.

    Guess that proves this thread wrong doesn't it?
    No.

    By definition if you hate god you believe in god.

    Therefore you were not an atheist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    1. Atheists Do not:
      1. Hate God - There is no God.
      2. Worship Satan - There is no Satan.
      3. Hate Christians - Christians were all born atheists, and then had religion forced upon them.
      4. Eat Babies - There are no words for for the kind of deranged and deplorable imagination that thought this up.
      5. Lack morals - Every person has a sense of right and wrong regardless of whether they have a book of fairy tales to tell them what right and wrong is.

    2. Creationists like to ask, "How do you know the Big Bang happened? Were you there?" Yeah....right. Because I'm sure you were right there picking up shells while toddling along the bottom of the Red Sea, as the water was standing as two walls, waiting for you to cross, right?
    3. “Evolution is just a theory” demonstrates an almost criminal misunderstanding of what a scientific theory actually is. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation. The non-scientific word theory refers to a guess or conjecture, a contemplation or speculation. In science, this latter definition is actually called a hypothesis. The two terms are not interchangeable.
    4. As is the case with justice, it is the burden of the party making an assertive claim to offer proof of said claim. As in a criminal trial by jury, the prosecution needs to offer objective evidence that events took place a certain way. The job of the defence is to show why the arguments of the prosecution are not valid. In such a court situation, the prosecution could never say “Well, this book says that such and such happened on the night of July 15th, therefore it is true.” The referenced book would immediately be questioned along the lines of who the author was, what their intentions and motivations were, when it was written, whether the writers were credible and in their right minds, etc. Since this horse shit doesn’t work in a trial, why do we suffer it to work for explanations of the entire universe? When science makes a claim, it is substantiated with plenty of objective evidence, yet when a religion claims something, the only justification is “well, there must be a God because we have sunsets.” Ah, of course, why didn’t we silly scientists think of that? And “You can’t prove God doesn’t exist” is the coward’s shifting of the burden of proof.
    5. Science and theism cannot co-exist. At all. They are opposite, nemeses, antonyms, call it whatever you wish. Anyone who claims to live by both is fooling themselves and not truly following either.


    These are just a few things that most atheists can agree on. And I, personally, don't think a single one of them is unreasonable.
    Very good.

    Yes most atheists agree with those premises.

    I might add one more. The differences between atheists begin where your post ends. Atheists are diverse people with many different ideas about many issues and topics. Some feel they are all left wingers or liberals which is simply not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    How did that work? You were an atheist - which means you did not believe that God existed. Yet, you hated God. Do you also hate unicorns, leprechauns, or goblins? The very fact that you insist that you hated God belies your claim that you were atheist. How do you hate something that does not exist?

    It would seem that you anti-theist. That is something very different than atheism. That is actively hating, and opposing God.
    Should rephrase.

    I hated the perception of what God and Christians stood for, just like the other atheists on this board.

    I used to make hate threads like this all the time and be proud of myself for proving Christians wrong.

    ( I was much better than most of you by the way ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I was an atheist and I hated God.

    Guess that proves this thread wrong doesn't it?
    All it proves that yet again you have no idea what you're talking about.. yet you can;t keep yourself from blabbing into any thread out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Should rephrase.

    I hated the perception of what God and Christians stood for, just like the other atheists on this board.

    I used to make hate threads like this all the time and be proud of myself for proving Christians wrong.

    ( I was much better than most of you by the way ).
    Atheists don't hate God, or Christians. They don't hate very much at all.
    They at times poke fun at the fantasy stories Christians believe in, yes.

    They speak out against stupidity, and hypocrisy, when it comes to Christians selectively quoting the bible, when they hate on LGBT, for example, but ignoring most of the bible in daily life, as it would inconvenience them.
    Ergo, they speak out against the selective "hate" that so-called Christians spew against certain folks who's choices they don't agree with.

    And they know the earth is round, the centre of the milky way galaxy is a black hole, and there is no supernatural, intelligent or conscious creator behind any of the universe.

    The idea that you at any point in your life would have been such a rational person, is highly unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Should rephrase.

    I hated the perception of what God and Christians stood for, just like the other atheists on this board.
    Like who?

    I used to make hate threads like this all the time and be proud of myself for proving Christians wrong.

    ( I was much better than most of you by the way ).
    Now I know you're lying.

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