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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The problem is the separation of church and state is a lie.
    No, it is not. It has been the law of the land from the inception of the Bill of Rights (and arguably before), and was articulated by the Supreme Court at least 139 years ago.

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    Democrats are taking away Christians rights.
    No, they are not. You are making that up. You want special rights, not the same rights as everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    No, it is not. It has been the law of the land from the inception of the Bill of Rights (and arguably before), and was articulated by the Supreme Court at least 139 years ago.


    No, they are not. You are making that up. You want special rights, not the same rights as everyone else.
    You show you take the constitution out of context to justify your abuse of the constitution.

    The only ones wanting special rights are democrat special interest groups

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You show you take the constitution out of context to justify your abuse of the constitution.
    I have taken nothing "out of context." You are making up your own version of the Constitution. I know American constitutional law; you do not. That is all there is to it.

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    What really offends me is, these "Christian" leaders roaming around government buildings are not the least bit interested in promoting a religion. Their only real purpose is to promote fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    What really offends me is, these "Christian" leaders roaming around government buildings are not the least bit interested in promoting a religion. Their only real purpose is to promote fascism.
    Their version of that religion is both a form of the religion and a form of fascism. You state a false duality; why pick one, when they can have both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I have taken nothing "out of context." You are making up your own version of the Constitution. I know American constitutional law; you do not. That is all there is to it.
    Show where it says separation of church and state

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Show where it says separation of church and state
    I have already cited the case law for you multiple times. I can also cite the 1st Congress (which wrote the Establishment Clause). I know American constitutional law, and you do not. You are making up your own constitution, and trolling when you get caught (again).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Their version of that religion is both a form of the religion and a form of fascism. You state a false duality; why pick one, when they can have both?
    Because, far too much human suffering has been inspired by this perversion. I never could muster any belief in the New Testament as a historical document, but it does have a wonderful moral code.

    Which in no way resembles the hate-fueled fascism of "Christians".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    [T]he New Testament ... does have a wonderful moral code.
    That moral code* was not original.

    * Many do not treat anything in the NT as a moral code, but rather as rules to be imposed upon others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I have already cited the case law for you multiple times. I can also cite the 1st Congress (which wrote the Establishment Clause). I know American constitutional law, and you do not. You are making up your own constitution, and trolling when you get caught (again).

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    As always you can't show facts and answer simple questions.

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