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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Absolutely. I would include slavery and oppression by you in what I'd like to prevent. Let everyone choose for themselves--don't force them to do something nor deny them the opportunity to do it.
    Hitler and his ilk would like your words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Spoken like every other oppressive religious fanatic in history.
    Indeed, but I can argue my moral points and position while the immoral religious cannot.

    That makes a huge difference.

    One takes thought while the religious use garbage dogma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    Really? Genocidal, son-murdering god comes out of your trap in a discussion about veils?
    And why not?

    That Abrahamic prick of a God is the cause of much harm.

    Why are you defending such a prick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    Me too.

    Or I guess I third it.


    Personally I don’t think we’ll see neckties around in a few generations. They’re conpleteky impractical and uncomfortable. And look absolutely horrible on fatties like me.
    To me they always represented a clean and conformed noose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Indeed.

    People with a twisted view of God and his ideology.

    The Muslim/Sharia ideology does not belong in civilized nation that cherish equality and freedom.

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    God? God is just the incentive, the closer.

    This is nothing more than people controlling people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Hitler and his ilk would like your words.

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    How so? You have it exactly backwards. Hitler and his ilk were into telling people how to dress and creating rules to make people conform to THEIR standards rather than their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Indeed, but I can argue my moral points and position while the immoral religious cannot.

    That makes a huge difference.

    One takes thought while the religious use garbage dogma.

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    First, it's irrelevant what moral points you or they may make--no one should have to live by your moral precepts, or theirs. Second, I think your points are just a different sort of garbage dogma. You are exactly like all those religious authorities in that you wish to make others conform to your own ideas by law rather than persuading them to behave as you'd like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    And why not?

    That Abrahamic prick of a God is the cause of much harm.

    Why are you defending such a prick?

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    One need not defend God to defend the rights of humans to self-determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    God? God is just the incentive, the closer.

    This is nothing more than people controlling people.
    Of course.

    That is what religions are all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Is it honorable to force men or women to wear veils or any particular garment?

    I ask this question, because forcing people to do so, seems to go against the notions of freedom, liberty, equality and fraternity. It is an insult to our fiduciary duty to each other and is responsible for many honor killings.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvdqNU8rX4

    In many countries, be it a religious, political or social custom; women and men are forced to wear particular garments;, veils hijabs, or beards are three examples of this.

    Does this practice of using force go against our fiduciary duty to women and men?

    The Golden Rules or some form of reciprocity exists in most religions and cultures.

    No one likes to be forced to do anything, this is irrefutable. In some cultures, force is used to have men and women kowtow to the culture or religion. This is a poor and immoral ideology.

    I believe that obliging or forcing people to submit to any political, social or religious norm, including forcing various apparel, --- without a just cause, --- is immoral.

    Do you agree?

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    Heh??


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