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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    So in your view Killing , Murder and Stealing are all right? Its not in your ten commandments
    First what I posted are not commandments, they are rational positions. Second, nowhere in the 10 suggestions is it implied that murder and stealing are "right".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    8 needs some work.

    I like the rest.
    The fact that they're subject to challenge, and not "engraved in stone" is appealing from an atheist perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    First what I posted are not commandments, they are rational positions. Second, nowhere in the 10 suggestions is it implied that murder and stealing are "right".
    Ok, your Title says Ten Commandments, a little misleading

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Ok, your Title says Ten Commandments, a little misleading
    The title says that the OP list is a response to the Ten Commandments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Ok, your Title says Ten Commandments, a little misleading
    Read the title again. It says the Atheist answer to the 10 Commandments. As in the Atheist response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Exactly, and it pertains to the Jewish nation of that time. Other than murder and theft, it doesn't pertain to the modern world,
    (And perjury. Note further that the prohibition "do not steal" refers to kidnapping, not theft of property, which is addressed elsewhere in the Torah.)

    It is not about "the modern world," but rather to whom it ever applied in the first place. The Torah was given to the Jews. Only the 7 Laws of Noah apply to mankind generally. (I.e., that is the Jewish approach to things.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    So in your view Killing , Murder and Stealing are all right? Its not in your ten commandments
    You allude to something I've wondered about religious people like yourself.

    Do you think murder is wrong because it's a commandment, or do you think it is wrong because of some other reason?

    Do you need God to tell you murder is wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    You allude to something I've wondered about religious people like yourself.

    Do you think murder is wrong because it's a commandment, or do you think it is wrong because of some other reason?

    Do you need God to tell you murder is wrong?
    Interestingly, this seems to be a recurring theme with Christians I talk to. They keep i9nsisting that the reason the 10 Commandments specifically, and the bible in general, are important is because we "need' God to know how to behave. None of the people making this claim seem to understand that they are implying that, without their religious, they would be lascivious, reprehensible thieves, rapists, and murderers, and the only thig keeping them in check is the bible, God, and their religion. Yet they always want to insist that it is the non-theists who "lack morals", even though we don't need a god, or religion to realise that such behaviour is simply unacceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Interestingly, this seems to be a recurring theme with Christians I talk to. They keep i9nsisting that the reason the 10 Commandments specifically, and the bible in general, are important is because we "need' G-d to know how to behave. None of the people making this claim seem to understand that they are implying that, without their religious, they would be lascivious, reprehensible thieves, rapists, and murderers, and the only thig keeping them in check is the bible, G-d, and their religion. Yet they always want to insist that it is the non-theists who "lack morals", even though we don't need a g-d, or religion to realise that such behaviour is simply unacceptable.
    What I find interesting is that people who think of religion this way do not seem to be able to control themselves even with "G-d to keep them in check." They blame their behavior on their devil, without taking responsibility for having free will to choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    So in your view Killing , Murder and Stealing are all right? Its not in your ten commandments
    Actually, that could fall under 4. Every person has the right to control their own body.

    Or 6. Be mindful of the consequences of all of your actions and recognise that you must take responsibility for them.
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