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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    I have on dispute to your assessment. One is the celebration of the Birth of the Messiah, the other is the celebration of a Saint and follower of the Messiah.

    I know you don't believe that Jesus is the Messiah, I respect your belief. I do, I just hope you grant me the same Respect.

    In other words we disagree, but we don't have to hate one another because our beliefs differ.
    The birth was in spring, by best estimates. Who has flocks of sheep out in the hills in midwinter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    "Pagan" does not mean non-religious. Pagans were (and are) religious. They just are not Xians.

    In any case, the name "Santa" is derived from your St. Nicholas, who was of the Xian religion, and is part of Xmas, which celebrates the birth of your Jesus. That indicates a Xian religious background.
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    First definition: follower of a polytheistic religion. That is to say, "pagan" does not mean non-religious.c


    No idea what you are talking about here.
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    I said nothing about "all other religions." You are making things up again.

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    My Father was a charismatic Anglican parson, my Mother an amused atheist. I used to ask her how she could take an active part in parish work. 'Well', she said, 'You don't tell children there's no Father Christmas'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    And thus it is demonstrated that Santa and Xmas are not and can be neither secular nor secularized. They are inherently religious.
    While you allege that santa is religious because his appearance is coincident with crest mast , roughly three days following the winter solstice , unlike religion , none are actually selling santa as anything other than an apologue to make children mindful of behavioural consequences .

    When one discovers that santa is only a fictional character , it can be emotionally disappointing .

    Many do not foster the santa story to their children , in an effort to safeguard the validity of their religious assertions , because of how the discovery of santa as a myth conveys a lesson about naivety and caution , for fabrications passed off as truth .

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