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    Worse Than I Thought

    I grew to actually dislike the Southern Baptist faith, but these actions by the Convention are worse.

    Graphic Warning: Testimonies of Sexual Abuse By a Youth Worker in a Memphis Church | The Wartburg Watch 2018
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    I have heard about this story. The youth pastor sexually abuse a young woman...then apologized to the congregation. His congregation rallied around him.

    Seems all is forgiven for the ex-youth pastor and everyone believes the young woman should just move on.


    Does the church have the right to absolve the pastor of his past sin? Does absolving him of his past sin absolve him of his past crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    I have heard about this story. The youth pastor sexually abuse a young woman...then apologized to the congregation. His congregation rallied around him.

    Seems all is forgiven for the ex-youth pastor and everyone believes the young woman should just move on.


    Does the church have the right to absolve the pastor of his past sin? Does absolving him of his past sin absolve him of his past crime?
    Absolutely not, and they know it. Church organizations have drug programs. The recovering addict is required to meet with all people close to them and make amends. That is to say apologize for any wrong doing as a function of their addiction. Those moments are one on one with the friend or relative and the addict must accept the consequences. What they do here is Kabuki theater; the congregation isn't the one to forgive, only the victim. That bastard should be in jail.
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    Funny thing how I sensed they thought these things were fine.

    Like a Sunday School teacher coming in,going into great deal how the Duck Dynasty Preacher was a great Pastor.after she rea gale died the class with that I reminded her of his nasty remarks about blacks and telling his Congregation to get ‘em young.

    I was never a favorite of hers after that. Not sure why. I could tell she had trouble being nice to me.

    I also passed a google search on Roger Williams,founder of the Baptist faith working with his friend,Thomas Jefferson to make sure we had seperation of Church and State. It was obvious she did not know who Roger Willams was.

    After I exploded over the comparison of Trump to Churchill on the Prayer line, no less I knew I would not be welcomed back. But she did apologize. I have seen her a couple of times since,she looked shamed face, but I simply spoke to her.

    My friends still encourage me to come back. I told the New Pastor when he visited me why I left. He assured me that would not happen in his Pulpit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    I have heard about this story. The youth pastor sexually abuse a young woman...then apologized to the congregation. His congregation rallied around him.

    Seems all is forgiven for the ex-youth pastor and everyone believes the young woman should just move on.


    Does the church have the right to absolve the pastor of his past sin? Does absolving him of his past sin absolve him of his past crime?
    God is the one you are supposed to ask for forgiveness. If those people knew their Bible they would know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    I have heard about this story. The youth pastor sexually abuse a young woman...then apologized to the congregation. His congregation rallied around him.

    Seems all is forgiven for the ex-youth pastor and everyone believes the young woman should just move on.


    Does the church have the right to absolve the pastor of his past sin? Does absolving him of his past sin absolve him of his past crime?
    His congregation is free to forgive him or not.
    The state of Tennessee is another matter.
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    Now, see, I posted this in a discussion on a forum, a few month's ago:

    And I got censured by the Christians on that forum as misrepresenting how Christianity works. However, it seems, according to this story, that is exactly how Christianity works: "oops. I'm sorry. Forgive me?" Aaaand, yep. That's good enough for us.

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