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    Christians on other Christians and where some have taken Christianity today......

    Sadly, this is not a rare or unusual observance......

    The first question one might ask is how this is possible? How can so many pretend and claim they believe in things they blatantly fail to live by, even defy.....not just as the average human being does, but to an absurd level?


    "The death of Christianity in the U.S."
    https://baptistnews.com/article/deat.../#.Wmqsfq6nHuj


    In order for one to truly and honestly see themselves in the mirror, realize and recognize what they are doing, what is required and what it is considered, a sin or a virtue.......If you believe in the following, how can you obsess about a "right" to refuse to do things like serve people and treat people in need, based on your view of their sins, yet totally ignore obsessing about the sins of other people and instead, offering to support them? Do these people seriously believe no one sees the hypocrisy and if they do, how do they lack the humility to see it is something they need to stop doing?

    https://www.openbible.info/topics/humility


    Consider, the "Golden Rule".......

    Would one want others to refuse to treat them in a hospital if those who had the capacity to treat them and help them, refuse to treat them, merely because in their belief, the person that needs treatment is abhorrent to them or in their opinion, wrong?

    What is it that was said about the way one treats others, is the way one treats God? If you refuse others, the same things you would allow for yourself or your brethren, aren't you defying your God and refusing to treat God even as you would treat yourself?

    No doubt, there will be those that try to excuse themselves and the Evangelists mentioned in this article, ignoring the question of treating others or their own God, in a manner they would treat (respect) themselves or want others to treat them?

    It makes no sense, especially when it is so blatantly done and so many people can clearly see it.

    Many are unsure how someone can gave a right to reject other human beings, based on a belief, but others are not allowed to have the same and equal right, to reject them, based on the same?

    How is it, if someone were to refuse to serve a Christian, because they are a Christian, would the Christian feel it was perfectly justified or would they call it an "atttack on Christianity"??? By the same token how is it "religious freedom" for a Christian to refuse to serve anyone else, based on their beliefs???

    This is a slight of hand some have exploited religious belief for. They could care less about their own belief in God, they don't believe in God, but they know how devout some people are and they exploit their beliefs in God to totally spin reality and Christ's teachings into the totally opposite of what they are....They are able to do this, using the suggestion that Christianity is somehow being attacked, when the reality is, hypocrisy is Christianity's act of suicide, for those who follow a form of "Christianity" that defies the very core of Christ's teachings......
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    All humans are guilty of sin and are wrong, I think this would prove the bible correct, don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    All humans are guilty of sin and are wrong, I think this would prove the bible correct, don't you?
    Chloe isn't convinced....

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    Christians in other Christians?

    FINALLY!

    Where do I sign up?

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    It’s a catch 22 for churches. When you force people to comply with dogma and ritual they resent you, see through it, and many lose interest in coming. But when you don’t force people to comply with dogma and ritual they figure they don’t even need to be in the church anymore, they can be sensible at home. And leave in droves.

    Honestly - religions are going to have to adapt to a world that still needs God but doesn’t need churches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    Itís a catch 22 for churches. When you force people to comply with dogma and ritual they resent you, see through it, and many lose interest in coming. But when you donít force people to comply with dogma and ritual they figure they donít even need to be in the church anymore, they can be sensible at home. And leave in droves.

    Honestly - religions are going to have to adapt to a world that still needs God but doesnít need churches.
    God? Oh, I have an app for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    Sadly, this is not a rare or unusual observance......

    The first question one might ask is how this is possible? How can so many pretend and claim they believe in things they blatantly fail to live by, even defy.....not just as the average human being does, but to an absurd levelknot

    "The death of Christianity in the U.S."
    https://baptistnews.com/article/deat.../#.Wmqsfq6nHuj


    In order for one to truly and honestly see themselves in the mirror, realize and recognize what they are doing, what is required and what it is considered, a sin or a virtue.......If you believe in the following, how can you obsess about a "right" to refuse to do things like serve people and treat people in need, based on your view of their sins, yet totally ignore obsessing about the sins of other people and instead, offering to support them? Do these people seriously believe no one sees the hypocrisy and if they do, how do they lack the humility to see it is something they need to stop doing?

    https://www.openbible.info/topics/humility


    Consider, the "Golden Rule".......

    Would one want others to refuse to treat them in a hospital if those who had the capacity to treat them and help them, refuse to treat them, merely because in their belief, the person that needs treatment is abhorrent to them or in their opinion, wrong?

    What is it that was said about the way one treats others, is the way one treats God? If you refuse others, the same things you would allow for yourself or your brethren, aren't you defying your God and refusing to treat God even as you would treat yourself?

    No doubt, there will be those that try to excuse themselves and the Evangelists mentioned in this article, ignoring the question of treating others or their own God, in a manner they would treat (respect) themselves or want others to treat them?

    It makes no sense, especially when it is so blatantly done and so many people can clearly see it.

    Many are unsure how someone can gave a right to reject other human beings, based on a belief, but others are not allowed to have the same and equal right, to reject them, based on the same?

    How is it, if someone were to refuse to serve a Christian, because they are a Christian, would the Christian feel it was perfectly justified or would they call it an "atttack on Christianity"??? By the same token how is it "religious freedom" for a Christian to refuse to serve anyone else, based on their beliefs???

    This is a slight of hand some have exploited religious belief for. They could care less about their own belief in God, they don't believe in God, but they know how devout some people are and they exploit their beliefs in God to totally spin reality and Christ's teachings into the totally opposite of what they are....They are able to do this, using the suggestion that Christianity is somehow being attacked, when the reality is, hypocrisy is Christianity's act of suicide, for those who follow a form of "Christianity" that defies the very core of Christ's teachings......
    Knot, your article is exactly what I have witnessed.

    There is a second article in that link that gives charts. Evangelicals grew stronger for a long period of time. But now the chart shows most of the Evangelicals are old, they young do not believe them. The numbers have fallen drastically.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...h-of-the-past/


    But I can tell you many of my generation,my children and Grandchilren are turning away,too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    All humans are guilty of sin and are wrong, I think this would prove the bible correct, don't you?
    No,Spooky, your post is dead wrong. If you believe the NT, we are under the New Covanant and are forgiven. But that does not mean you keep doing evil, because you are,To Go And Sin No More!Ē

    That is why you have a conscience. But many have not listened to their conscience and it is dead. This is the form of Right Wing Evangelicalism.

    You need to look further into that link,check what I found. A chart that shows how badly your brand is failing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    No,Spooky, your post is dead wrong. If you believe the NT, we are under the New Covanant and are forgiven. But that does not mean you keep doing evil, because you are,To Go And Sin No More!”

    That is why you have a conscience. But many have not listened to their conscience and it is dead. This is the form of Right Wing Evangelicalism.

    You need to look further into that link,check what I found. A chart that shows how badly your brand is failing.
    Then why do you vote democrat that goes against the Bible. The Op is pure secupation by a religion that has its own set of rules. The baptist church follows more of mans rules than God's rules. That is called religion.

    We need more of Spirituality which is following God's rules and less religion that is man's rules

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    Verily, the Lord spake down into them, crying, "Thou Shalt Not Vote Democrat!"

    I Trumpians, 14:88
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