Page 7 of 12 FirstFirst ... 56789 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 119
Thanks Tree32Thanks

Thread: Here's my problem...

  1. #61
    We choose both. Amelia's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    45,963
    Thanks
    27975

    From
    Wisconsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    You're a "professionally trained logician", and employed logical fallacies back to back? I'd get my money back from the training.
    You appear to have no awareness of your errors. You just bull straight ahead with your snark and your carelessness.

    People such as myself try to deal with you thoughtfully though you show again and again that it's a lost cause.

    Then you make one of your aggressive OPs and no one shows up for some time and you act upset that people won't come open themselves up to your predictable attacks.

    You are sloppy. You don't admit when you've been shown to be wrong. You don't earn the respect I try to give you in a debate. You create tangles as you run off on tangents and think you've made gotchas.

    But you're so darn earnest and seem so tortured in your hatred for all things faith-based ... you're fascinating. That's why I keep coming back.

    You troll, but in your heart you don't seem to _be_ a troll. You just seem frustrated.



    That said, though I do respect you in spite of all your flaws, I am not a fool or a masochist. So I'll be taking a break from your abusive posts. After I've had a nice break -- maybe a couple of months -- I'll probably be back for more. Later.

  2. #62
    Veteran Member Czernobog's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    35,477
    Thanks
    17709

    From
    Phoenix, AZ
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Knight,

    Here's the thing. You are a bitter, angry atheist and seeing the joy that people of faith experience, it makes you even angrier and more bitter. Sadly, it is a downward spiral that most atheist experience.
    My aren't we presumptuous. There was not a single angry word in the OP. No bitterness. Just calm, rational logic. You really shouldn't project onto other people. Just own your anger, and bitterness.
    Thanks from Babba

  3. #63
    Veteran Member Czernobog's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    35,477
    Thanks
    17709

    From
    Phoenix, AZ
    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    You appear to have no awareness of your errors. You just bull straight ahead with your snark and your carelessness.

    People such as myself try to deal with you thoughtfully though you show again and again that it's a lost cause.

    Then you make one of your aggressive OPs and no one shows up for some time and you act upset that people won't come open themselves up to your predictable attacks.

    You are sloppy. You don't admit when you've been shown to be wrong. You don't earn the respect I try to give you in a debate. You create tangles as you run off on tangents and think you've made gotchas.

    But you're so darn earnest and seem so tortured in your hatred for all things faith-based ... you're fascinating. That's why I keep coming back.

    You troll, but in your heart you don't seem to _be_ a troll. You just seem frustrated.



    That said, though I do respect you in spite of all your flaws, I am not a fool or a masochist. So I'll be taking a break from your abusive posts. After I've had a nice break -- maybe a couple of months -- I'll probably be back for more. Later.
    Buh bye.

  4. #64
    Senior Member Loki's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    10,149
    Thanks
    3807

    From
    East coast USA
    The Catholic religion being the first Christain religion went to great great lengths to distinguish all other religions. For this reason alone, they are a fraud.
    If they are fraudulent, the concept is fraudulent and all other based on same fraud are fraudulent themselves.

  5. #65
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    12,504
    Thanks
    3062

    From
    California
    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    My aren't we presumptuous. There was not a single angry word in the OP. No bitterness. Just calm, rational logic. You really shouldn't project onto other people. Just own your anger, and bitterness.
    Mr. Czernobog,

    If you aren't bitter and angry, why are you so intent on having people join you in your bitter, angry world?

  6. #66
    Veteran Member Czernobog's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    35,477
    Thanks
    17709

    From
    Phoenix, AZ
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Czernobog,

    If you aren't bitter and angry, why are you so intent on having people join you in your bitter, angry world?
    My world isn't bitter, or angry. It isn't my world that creates the likes of Fred Phelps. That would be yours. But, hey. You keep right on projecting.

  7. #67
    Veteran Member Devil505's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    63,484
    Thanks
    20240

    From
    Mass and Florida
    One can't believe in R. Reagan's "Trust but verify" philosophy but have unquestioned faith in god at the same time.
    That's my definition of hypocrisy.

  8. #68
    Veteran Member Czernobog's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    35,477
    Thanks
    17709

    From
    Phoenix, AZ
    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    One can't believe in R. Reagan's "Trust but verify" philosophy but have unquestioned faith in god at the same time.
    That's my definition of hypocrisy.
    Christians insist that they do verify, and have "evidence" to support their faith. The problem is that when pressed on that, the 'evidence" turns out to be all experiential. They "heard his voice, "felt his presence", "saw his truth". Which is perfectly fine, so long as we are only referring to God as a philosophical construct, and want to talk about the philosophy of God. Unfortunately, Christians want to insist on God as an objective reality, and cannot understand why such anecdotal evidence is no longer sufficient for demonstrating a claim of objective existence.

  9. #69
    Established Member
    Joined
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    7,083
    Thanks
    306

    From
    Irrelevant
    Quote Originally Posted by knight View Post
    The origin of the universe? I have no clue, and I'm okay with that. No one knows...that includes Christians.
    Your world view operates under a very rigorous premise -- that any observable fact must have a compelling reason for it to be so. It is by this standard that you judge anything as valid or total bs. Is that not correct?

    But when it comes to the physical universe, you are ok that you have no clue. One moment nothing exists, and then the next, everything exists.

    Now, I don't really care much what you want to believe but, it seems to me, that is so much harder to swallow (intellectually speaking) than thinking of a god wherein the reason for everything resides in.

    Don't you think so?

  10. #70
    Veteran Member Czernobog's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    35,477
    Thanks
    17709

    From
    Phoenix, AZ
    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    Your world view operates under a very rigorous premise -- that any observable fact must have a compelling reason for it to be so. It is by this standard that you judge anything as valid or total bs. Is that not correct?

    But when it comes to the physical universe, you are ok that you have no clue. One moment nothing exists, and then the next, everything exists.

    Now, I don't really care much what you want to believe but, it seems to me, that is so much harder to swallow (intellectually speaking) than thinking of a god wherein the reason for everything resides in.

    Don't you think so?
    No. No I don't. Unless that God put everything into motion, and then toddled off to have nothing more to do with it - the deistic model of God. I could accept that as a rational possibility. However, as soon as that God becomes personal, and theistic, continuing to directly affect reality, then reason dictates that an objective, interactive force in the universe would leave objective, verifiable evidence of its existence. Take dark matter. We cannot see it, cannot touch it, cannot hear it. However, we can observe, record, verify, and predict its effect on matter around it. In this way we know that it exists. Where is that objective evidence of God?
    Thanks from Friday13

Page 7 of 12 FirstFirst ... 56789 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 94
    Last Post: 27th January 2013, 01:33 PM
  2. Guns aren't the problem. HANDGUNS are the problem!!!!
    By Oscar99 in forum Political Discussion
    Replies: 256
    Last Post: 9th May 2012, 02:56 PM
  3. The Debt problem is an international problem.
    By kmiller1610 in forum Political Discussion
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 4th August 2011, 09:30 AM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 3rd August 2011, 08:27 PM
  5. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 30th November 2010, 08:56 AM

Tags for this Thread


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed