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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    More like people thinking that they're entitled to other peoples' private property.
    Not all private property. Just land or territory. That is what most wars boil down to, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    I was just commenting out loud that I never imagined you'd subscribe to marxist dialectics. It wasn't intended to be snide.

    And no, I didn't intend to argue the point with you since I subscribe to it, myself (up to a certain point).
    What was UNTRUE about my statement? You are free to LABEL that statement as anything you wish. My question is how is it inaccurate or untrue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    I'd like to open a discussion on a thought I had and have heard others talk about.

    When people disagree with each other, they tend to believe that the other side is not only wrong, but evil. And that notion is a major cause in a lot of the conflicts we see today. It is a crucial fault and also is universal across cultures it seems. For example, the wars in the Middle East, with the different factions of Muslims (Shia and Sunni). Each side is killing the other because they think they are fighting evil. People who follow the exact same religion are literally killing each other because of their different beliefs within that religion. That sounds insane to me.

    Do you agree that this flaw in reasoning is a main cause of a lot of the violence going on today? Is there anything we can do to work on it? And where does this all stem from?
    I don't know about it causing violence, but it definitely creates an atmosphere where disagreements can't be ironed out because why argue with someone you believe to be of such flawed character that they can't be reasoned with?

    It's at the root of identity politics. I confess I often find myself disliking, for example, 2A supporters who use what they perceive to be liberals out to disarm people for nefarious reasons and are soooo over the top in their rhetoric that while I've never been a proponent of infringing on 2A rights, I can't help but want Ted Nugent to have his guns taken away because he's so combative and menacing about defending 2A rights.

    This kind of thing:



    Why would such a high profile person, who sits on the board of the NRA, say "suck on my machine gun" and expect people to take him seriously when he advocates for gun rights?

    I think characterizing someone as evil or harboring an evil agenda far beyond what they are actually proposing is just an excuse to justify an extreme reaction that's abusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    More like people thinking that they're entitled to other peoples' private property.
    You mean like civil asset forfeiture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    So profit is the root cause of conflict -- and by extension, private property?
    The scientific cause of conflict is limited resources. This works exactly the same from single atoms to the entire universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    The scientific cause of conflict is limited resources. This works exactly the same from single atoms to the entire universe.
    There are no resource limits on planet earth other than the ones created by mankind.. artificially, in order to control others.

    There are enough resources, today, to feed every single person, to house very single person, to provide health care to every single person..

    The conflict around this world is not due to natural resource limits, but due to a few controlling the majority of resources, creating an artificial limitation, for personal gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    So profit is the root cause of conflict -- and by extension, private property?
    Greed is the cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    There are enough resources, today, to feed every single person, to house very single person, to provide health care to every single person.
    And to clothe every person, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Greed is the cause.
    More specifically, lust for power over other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    There are no resource limits on planet earth other than the ones created by mankind.. artificially, in order to control others.

    There are enough resources, today, to feed every single person, to house very single person, to provide health care to every single person..

    The conflict around this world is not due to natural resource limits, but due to a few controlling the majority of resources, creating an artificial limitation, for personal gain.
    Providing there's adequate means for distribution. If you live in the desert, you're likely to experience water and food shortages because of the climate. Not really anyone's fault.

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