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    Passover

    Passover this year starts this Friday night (the first and last nights are on Shabbos this year which is cool). I will, naturally, be away for Shabbos and through until Sunday night, as well. Most observant Jews outside Israel do two seders - one each the first and second nights - though Israelis inside and outside Israel only do the first night. As always, I hate the cleaning process - the house must be rid of all chametz (or that which remains must be sold to a non-Jew) - and physically, cleaning is difficult for me. (A friend volunteered to come help, which I endlessly appreciate. Same guy who checks on my cats when I'm away.) But I generally look forward to Passover (also called Pesach), as the seders are a highlight of the year.

    Judaism 101: Pesach: Passover

    I am a firstborn, so normally I would fast on the day before Passover, but there is a way around that (I think the link above discusses that). I almost missed it one year, but was able to catch up at another shul that started later.

    Anyway, it's a great time of year.

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    Two questions:

    What's a chametz?

    Are you putting it on sale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    Two questions:

    What's a chametz?

    Are you putting it on sale?
    Read the link that Ian posted...it very clearly and explicitly defines what 'chametz' is. Very interesting, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    What's a chametz?
    Chametz is leaven, or any leavening agent. We cannot own or even possess any during the week of Passover. See "Laws and Customs" in the above link for details (or you can ask me).

    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    Are you putting it on sale?
    I may not have any in my possession during Passover, so I have to get rid of it. I can:

    1) Throw it away by halachic midday the day before Passover starts;
    2) Give it or sell it to a non-Jews (again, before Passover starts);
    3) Anything remaining must be burned (and we hold back some so as to have something to burn) - again, before Passover starts.

    Furthermore, we also say a beracha (blessing) in which we nullify our ownership of any chametz remaining in our possession, in case we missed anything. Even if it is found in the house, we cannot do anything with it because it no longer belongs to us. If that happened - say, if I found a cheerio in a vent (that happened once, though not on Passover) - I would ask one of the local rabbis how to handle the situation. Typically, though, we are very careful about the whole thing.

    Most of the time, people do not have significant amounts of chametz to sell, but some do, depending on what they have. Expensive liquors (kosher, of course), someone probably wants to "keep," so he sells to the non-Jew with a down-payment (and if the non-Jew avails himself of any, he must pay full price later), and buys it back later. I will have very little left after burning to be sold, yet I have to do it (e.g., the Greenies I give my cats contain wheat, which has chametz in it, must either be used up, thrown out, sold or burned), because I may neither own nor possess any chametz whatsoever during Passover. Instead of bread or grain products (again, see the link above), we eat matzah and products made from it. The matzah usually isn't bad, but many products made from it can be truly awful, even chocolate. Fortunately, chocolate must be REALLY bad before I will disavow it....
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    Matzah is good with eggplant caviar, taramasalata and chopped liver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    Read the link that Ian posted...it very clearly and explicitly defines what 'chametz' is. Very interesting, too.
    In the spirit of passover, I prefer to ask questions... Plus it makes for an interesting thread. Thanks though.
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    I hope it is not seen as trivial to say I love my 40+ year tradition of watching The Ten Commandments
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post


    I hope it is not seen as trivial to say I love my 40+ year tradition of watching The Ten Commandments
    Lol ... not at all. It's certainly an entertaining film, with a great cast. Not very Biblically accurate, and some really white people playing a bunch of Africans and Middle Easterners (that's how it was in the 1950s), but still fun.

    I recorded it onto VHS off of TV years ago, though I haven't watched it in years. I don't even know if the tape is still good ... some of those commercially-sold blanks would often be terrible even compared to pre-recorded films.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Passover this year starts this Friday night (the first and last nights are on Shabbos this year which is cool). I will, naturally, be away for Shabbos and through until Sunday night, as well. Most observant Jews outside Israel do two seders - one each the first and second nights - though Israelis inside and outside Israel only do the first night. As always, I hate the cleaning process - the house must be rid of all chametz (or that which remains must be sold to a non-Jew) - and physically, cleaning is difficult for me. (A friend volunteered to come help, which I endlessly appreciate. Same guy who checks on my cats when I'm away.) But I generally look forward to Passover (also called Pesach), as the seders are a highlight of the year.

    Judaism 101: Pesach: Passover

    I am a firstborn, so normally I would fast on the day before Passover, but there is a way around that (I think the link above discusses that). I almost missed it one year, but was able to catch up at another shul that started later.

    Anyway, it's a great time of year.
    I hope you enjoy your celebration.
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    Yeah, we're doing our usual "Passover-Lite." We're not cleansing the house of leavened bread, but we bought a crate of matzoh. Not a box. Not two boxes. A crate of five boxes. My wife insists that we need them for preparing various dishes, but every year we wind up with at least three full boxes of leftover matzoh. I'm calling it a "family tradition" because it's more respectable than calling it "my wife's poor planning."
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