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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    That is an excellent question! I would love to discuss it with you but after all, that is the whole purpose of my group instead of doing it here. If you like I will be glad to admit you.
    No, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    I looked at your group.

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    is not Christian doctrine. This is Theosophy.
    Not to get into a whole discussion here but to have mystical insight into the Divine is part of it also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    No, thanks.
    No prob. It's not for everyone since some are not ready to discuss what is brought up. Be well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    Not to get into a whole discussion here but to have mystical insight into the Divine is part of it also.
    Sure, it's a valid aspect of spirituality, but it isn't Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    No prob. It's not for everyone since some are not ready to discuss what is brought up. Be well.
    And many are beyond being "ready".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Sure, it's a valid aspect of spirituality, but it isn't Christianity.
    That's what the group discussion is for and yes, much of it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    And many are beyond being "ready".
    Those are the very ones I would like to hold discussions with in my group!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    Those are the very ones I would like to hold discussions with in my group!
    I already have the tee shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    I was brought up a Catholic so I know well what I am talking about. Most of their dogma appeared to be designed to browbeat one into acquiescing to EVERYTHING they told you that you should do. It was very condescending to many people and required very punitive action if you broke their rules. For one, you cannot take Communion if you are divorced or if you do not first confess all of your sins to a priest whom they say has the power to forgive you of your sins. Imagine that. Only he can't only God can do that. As for the pope, he is just another man. Nothing truly special about the guy. He is simply the head of an organization who is voted in to the highest office much like a president of a corporation is. He feels he can create saints but only God can do that. Thus, that sect was not about love. It appeared to have much hate in it thus, I left. I am glad I did years ago and have never once regretted it.
    Well, me too, but no Christian sect appeals to me. The entire New Testament (and most of the Old Testament) seems like utter nonsense to me.

    I can see why many people get gratification of all sorts from practicing a religion, especially one they were raised in, but not I. Not everyone.

    As for "hatefulness", the RCC has been one of the most anti-human organizations in history, but the character of any individual Catholic cannot be described as hateful. Some are, most are not.

    Like any group of humans, anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaangalewa View Post
    Et ecce duo ex illis ibant ipsa die in castellum, quod erat in spatio stadiorum sexaginta ab Jerusalem, nomine Emmaus. Et ipsi loquebantur ad invicem de his omnibus qu acciderant. Et factum est, dum fabularentur, et secum qurerent : et ipse Jesus appropinquans ibat cum illis : oculi autem illorum tenebantur ne eum agnoscerent. Et ait ad illos : Qui sunt hi sermones, quos confertis ad invicem ambulantes, et estis tristes ? Et respondens unus, cui nomen Cleophas, dixit ei : Tu solus peregrinus es in Jerusalem, et non cognovisti qu facta sunt in illa his diebus ? Quibus ille dixit : Qu ? Et dixerunt : De Jesu Nazareno, qui fuit vir propheta, potens in opere et sermone coram Deo et omni populo : et quomodo eum tradiderunt summi sacerdotes et principes nostri in damnationem mortis, et crucifixerunt eum : nos autem sperabamus quia ipse esset redempturus Isral : et nunc super hc omnia, tertia dies est hodie quod hc facta sunt. Sed et mulieres qudam ex nostris terruerunt nos, qu ante lucem fuerunt ad monumentum, et non invento corpore ejus, venerunt, dicentes se etiam visionem angelorum vidisse, qui di**** eum vivere. Et abierunt quidam ex nostris ad monumentum : et ita invenerunt sicut mulieres dixerunt, ipsum vero non invenerunt. Et ipse dixit ad eos : O stulti, et tardi corde ad credendum in omnibus qu locuti sunt prophet ! Nonne hc oportuit pati Christum, et ita intrare in gloriam suam ? Et incipiens a Moyse, et omnibus prophetis, interpretabatur illis in omnibus scripturis qu de ipso erant. Et appropinquaverunt castello quo ibant : et ipse se finxit longius ire. Et cogerunt illum, dicentes : Mane nobiscum, quoniam advesperascit, et inclinata est jam dies. Et intravit cum illis. Et factum est, dum recumberet cum eis, accepit panem, et benedixit, ac fregit, et porrigebat illis. Et aperti sunt oculi eorum, et cognoverunt eum : et ipse evanuit ex oculis eorum. Et dixerunt ad invicem : Nonne cor nostrum ardens erat in nobis dum loqueretur in via, et aperiret nobis Scripturas ? Et surgentes eadem hora regressi sunt in Jerusalem : et invenerunt congregatos undecim, et eos qui cum illis erant, dicentes : Quod surrexit Dominus vere, et apparuit Simoni. Et ipsi narrabant qu gesta erant in via, et quomodo cognoverunt eum in fractione panis.

    In English, please?
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