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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Yes, Spirituality is in you. You make that decision.

    But many times being with others who think the way you do gives you more couragein the face of dealing with the human problems we all have.
    I can agree with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    I prefer Following the Ten Commandments. Along with the words of the New Testament.

    Sorry to say I am not always successful when I see man abuse that.

    Religion is man made. All the rules and regulations, even in the Bible are all man made.
    Indeed, and the Ten Commandments were plagiarized form older and wiser traditions.

    Read the book of the Dead and you will see the a better version of the Ten Commandments as they do not preach misogyny or put women as a part of a man's possessions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Of course. Organized religion is a compromise between what God wants for us and what we need.

    We need order, a tribe, spiritual pride, ceremony, a way of infusing status into our lives.

    God wants us to serve, to be holy, to love our children when they drive us crazy, to fulfill our commitments, to love our fellow man, to have a purpose and a calling that aligns with our gifts.

    To the extent that religion facilitates God's purpose for his whole creation, it is a good thing.

    But tribalism and spiritual pride and arrogance have been the wellspring of evil for millennia.

    Hitler thought he was doing God' s will.
    So did Christians and Muslims while using Inquisitions and Jihads.

    Do you see much difference between Hitler's methods and Christianity's and Islam's?

    I do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    So did Christians and Muslims while using Inquisitions and Jihads.

    Do you see much difference between Hitler's methods and Christianity's and Islam's?

    I do not.

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    That's insane. There are a billion Christians and hundreds of denominations and the vast majority of those institutions are servants of mankind. If you don't see a difference between Hitler and all those people of faith, you haven't looked very hard. Religion is only capable of abuse, not prone to it on the scale of a Hitler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    That's insane. There are a billion Christians and hundreds of denominations and the vast majority of those institutions are servants of mankind. If you don't see a difference between Hitler and all those people of faith, you haven't looked very hard. Religion is only capable of abuse, not prone to it on the scale of a Hitler.
    So your morality is based on quantity of murders and not murder itself.

    You show how your belief system has corrupted your morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Can you be spiritual without being religious?

    Spirituality might be exemplified by this quote.
    John 6 ; 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

    One can practice spirituality alone. One cannot practice religiosity without a group/tribe.

    Religiosity, I would define roughly, as promoting an organized or local church/temple/tribe etc.

    Spirituality ignores our tribal instincts. Our religiosity demand that we cater to our tribal/fellowship needs.

    If you are spiritually minded and have a working moral system that you think is the best, I think that you should want to share it and have others follow it. To share it should have you join a church or religion so as to promote your good thinking.

    Does a spiritual mind, if truly spiritual, have to join a religion, even if not morally up to your standard, in order to share your view and perhaps help that religion rise up to your better standard of excellence?

    If you answer yes to that question, is that why spiritually minded atheists and others now forming atheist churches or churches that take a more secular role within society?

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    Of course. Why couldn't one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    I am spiritual not religious, I follow strive Christ not a Church, or Religion.
    If you take Jesus The Christ as your God. You ARE following a religion. The religion called Christianity.
    OR, are you saying you try to adhere to the moral teachings of Jesus The Christ but do not consider him to be a deity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    No, Religion is Church of Christ, Southern Baptist, Methodist or a Pope.. I don't follow a religion I follow the teachings of Christ.

    Just as you following the Teachings of the Prophets and Judges of the Old Testament isn't religion..
    LOL..no, those are SECTS within a religion. The religion being Christianity.
    Are you being serious or just joking???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Of course. Why couldn't one?
    I agree with you so you would have to ask the theist who say no for an answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    This is also a common (claimed) stance in 12-Step groups.
    We advise people to "turn your will and your lives over to the care of God, AS YOU UNDERSTAND HIM." Start anywhere and grow from there.
    Your understanding, your relationship, with the Great Spirit will mature and grow as you live a sober life and follow the 12 steps to the best of your ability.

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