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    Should the religious world thank the secular world for improving older religious law

    Should the religious world thank the secular world for improving older religious law to the level of excellence we now enjoy?

    If we grade secular law against theistic laws, I think we will agree that God’s laws are unjust when compared to the laws of most lands.

    Three cheers for secular world and the world’s intelligentsia. They are the Gnostics of the world and their just laws prove it.

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    Remember theocracies do not allow religious freedoms.

    Religious laws had to comport to secular laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Remember theocracies do not allow religious freedoms.

    Religious laws had to comport to secular laws.
    Indeed, and if Christianity had not, the secular would have had to create their own Inquisitions out of self defence.

    We still might have to to bring Islam to heel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Should the religious world thank the secular world for improving older religious law to the level of excellence we now enjoy?

    If we grade secular law against theistic laws, I think we will agree that God’s laws are unjust when compared to the laws of most lands.

    Three cheers for secular world and the world’s intelligentsia. They are the Gnostics of the world and their just laws prove it.

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    How exactly is the commandment of love inferior to secular laws, hmmmm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    How exactly is the commandment of love inferior to secular laws, hmmmm?
    Are you fool enough to think we can be commanded to love?

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    Are you fool enough to think we can be commanded to love?

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    The sentence 'Love one another as I have loved you.' is an imperative sentence, hence a command...so yeah.

    duh?

    So, how is the commandment of love inferior to secular laws? Or is that a secret is as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    The sentence 'Love one another as I have loved you.' is an imperative sentence, hence a command...so yeah.

    duh?

    So, how is the commandment of love inferior to secular laws? Or is that a secret is as well?
    It is not enforceable.

    What penalty would you be happy with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Remember theocracies do not allow religious freedoms.

    Religious laws had to comport to secular laws.
    That would seem to be... err... incorrect:

    Muhammad: Legacy of a Prophet . Muhammad and Jews of Medina | PBS

    Seems that the "religious" world had established concepts of religious freedoms long before the mythical "secular" world ever came into existence, such as in the case of Muhammed granting Jews rights to practice their religion - while the "secular" Soviet Union was still murdering Jews centuries later, having failed to even catch up to the Muslim world of the 700s. Mhmm

    Yet as always, those silly, irrelevant "secularists" feel the need to appropriate others' culture, incapable of creating their own, unless internet pornography or sex robots count as culture. They might to a grubby white male of the sub-literati - but certainly not to a princess like Scheherazade.

    The "secular" world is a mythical entity anyway, comprised mainly of unattractive white males, many of whom have been accused of creepy conduct by the #MeToo movement as of late. I'd liken it to a "Star Trek convention" more than anything resembling a "world" anyway.

    And the 0.1% of or so of the population silly enough to actually identify with "secularism" to begin with will be essentially extinct in a few decades - it's not like a demographic evolutionarily and etiquettely challenged enough to ask a nice woman on a date who isn't anime character has any chance of flourishing.

    While religions such as Islam and Hinduism will still retain billions of followers, and continue to grow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visionary View Post
    That would seem to be... err... incorrect:

    Muhammad: Legacy of a Prophet . Muhammad and Jews of Medina | PBS

    Seems that the "religious" world had established concepts of religious freedoms long before the mythical "secular" world ever came into existence, such as in the case of Muhammed granting Jews rights to practice their religion - while the "secular" Soviet Union was still murdering Jews centuries later, having failed to even catch up to the Muslim world of the 700s. Mhmm

    Yet as always, those silly, irrelevant "secularists" feel the need to appropriate others' culture, incapable of creating their own, unless internet pornography or sex robots count as culture. They might to a grubby white male of the sub-literati - but certainly not to a princess like Scheherazade.

    The "secular" world is a mythical entity anyway, comprised mainly of unattractive white males, many of whom have been accused of creepy conduct by the #MeToo movement as of late. I'd liken it to a "Star Trek convention" more than anything resembling a "world" anyway.

    And the 0.1% of or so of the population silly enough to actually identify with "secularism" to begin with will be essentially extinct in a few decades - it's not like a demographic evolutionarily and etiquettely challenged enough to ask a nice woman on a date who isn't anime character has any chance of flourishing.

    While religions such as Islam and Hinduism will still retain billions of followers, and continue to grow.
    Both Christianity and Islam, slave holding ideologies, have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

    Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

    Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

    https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/theft-values/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoxPapPxXk

    Humanity centered religions, good? Yes.

    Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes.

    Do you agree?

    If not, give us the numbers of Jews left in the Middle East where they used to flourish.

    They and Christians have been reduced to almost nothing everywhere in the M E except for Jerusalem.

    The Yasidi are not to be reduced to nothing. So much for Muslim tolerance.

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