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Thread: Do you think it odd that your God never acknowledges you? Is that rude?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    In which case there remains no rudeness, for one who does not exist cannot be rude while not existing.

    Oh, the God concept most certainly exists, and it can be pretty much whatever any particular believer wants it to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Oh, the G-d concept most certainly exists, and it can be pretty much whatever any particular believer wants it to be.
    G-d Himself cannot be rude, however, if He does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    G-d Himself cannot be rude, however, if He does not exist.

    Nor can she if She doesn't exist either, I suppose.

    Still, believers could believe that She does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    This question does not make sense. G-d being One, unique and whole, does not have "attributes" or "concepts of behavior." Giving human attributes to G-d is strictly metaphorical, as an attempt to understand something that is fundamentally beyond our comprehension.
    True that God is beyond our thinking, but his attributes are all human ones unless you have some attribute in mind that is inhuman yet not exaggerated in the supernatural realm.

    Do you have such an attribute in mind?

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    I am God. It's very simple, I am capable of all the sin and all the honor. It's me in my many facets in being human. Then, when bible was coined from many sources and time frames, I was no different, I have withstood the test of time, the test of being human, infailable and quite fail able.

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    [QUOTE=NightSwimmer;5997177]Do you consider it a human right to be protected from condemnation or ridicule?[/QUOTE

    Only in the matter of demeaning spiritual quest, otherwise good manners is usually enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlGuy View Post
    Only in the matter of demeaning spiritual quest, otherwise good manners is usually enough.

    So then, in your opinion, it should be illegal to condemn or ridicule any speech or behavior that is attributed to spiritual belief?

    Were that the case, then one could simply insist that armed robbery is a mandatory ritual required by their particular religious beliefs and they would become exempt from being charged with a crime for having committed armed robbery. I know that this example takes the concept to a logical extreme, but I'm not okay with even less egregious practices being excused merely upon the basis of a "spiritual quest".

    Holding religious beliefs is an individual choice. I am opposed to the general concept of granting special rights to individuals based upon their choice of spiritual belief systems. If one desires to avoid being condemned or ridiculed for their religious beliefs, then they should simply keep their beliefs to themselves. If they choose to voice (or act on) their opinions publicly, then they should be prepared to countenance disagreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    So then, in your opinion, it should be illegal to condemn or ridicule any speech or behavior that is attributed to spiritual belief?

    Were that the case, then one could simply insist that armed robbery is a mandatory ritual required by their particular religious beliefs and they would become exempt from being charged with a crime for having committed armed robbery. I know that this example takes the concept to a logical extreme, but I'm not okay with even less egregious practices being excused merely upon the basis of a "spiritual quest".

    Holding religious beliefs is an individual choice. I am opposed to the general concept of granting special rights to individuals based upon their choice of spiritual belief systems. If one desires to avoid being condemned or ridiculed for their religious beliefs, then they should simply keep their beliefs to themselves. If they choose to voice (or act on) their opinions publicly, then they should be prepared to countenance disagreement.
    Special rights? I think you're taking my short comment too far. I would say condemning an action or position of a religious group would be different than a condemnation of an individual's religious beliefs. And freedom of speech makes it possible to express individual religious thoughts based on merit of argument without disparaging that religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlGuy View Post
    Special rights? I think you're taking my short comment too far. I would say condemning an action or position of a religious group would be different than a condemnation of an individual's religious beliefs. And freedom of speech makes it possible to express individual religious thoughts based on merit of argument without disparaging that religion.

    So then, you didn't really mean anything that you said?

    In that case, never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    [G-d's] attributes are all human ones unless you have some attribute in mind that is inhuman yet not exaggerated in the supernatural realm.

    Do you have such an attribute in mind?
    The idea of G-d having "attributes" does not make sense. We can (and do) characterize His actions according to our understanding, but in fact G-d is whole, a complete unity. There are no "parts" or "attributes."

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