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    Why did God let Hitler to kill the Jews? It is a question that has troubled rabbinical scholars for decades. Since God had intervened to protect and nurture Jews in Biblical times, why had He forsaken them in the modern era?

    One possibility was offered by a Sephardic rabbi, Ovadia Yosef of Jerusalem, who suggested in 2000 that sinful Jews had been reincarnated during the Third Reich so that they could atone for their sins by suffering through the Holocaust. His theory presumes a kind of racial/religious purity: only Jews can be reincarnated as Jews. But if the Holocaust was intended as an especially heinous punishment for heinous sinners, why limit it to Jews? Why not reincarnate really bad Catholics, Communists and Muslims in the bodies of those destined for the concentration camps? Indeed, why not go to the other extreme? If Jews are morally superior, maybe only non-Jews were reincarnated to suffer at the hands of the Nazis. Ergo, no "real" Jews died in the Holocaust.

    If history is repeating itself, a new crop of really bad non-Jewish souls have been reincarnated as the current residents of Israel, who will be exterminated by the Islamo-fascists. There are no Jews in Israel.
    Human beings lived in small, mostly related, hunter gatherer societies for thousands of years. During that time, anyone who was different, as in coming from a neighboring tribe, was seen as an enemy.

    Other humans, then, who spoke differently, had different religious beliefs, looked different, were the enemy. Only those who had similar beliefs, spoke our language, and were the same as us were to be trusted.

    The Jews were different. So were homosexuals, Gypsies, anyone, in short, who was not the same as the Master Race, i.e., us.

    Therefore, they were the enemy, and were to be killed. Hence, the holocaust.

    God had nothing to do with it. It was human evolution that led to the holocaust.

    That same mentality still exists, by the way, in today's world. If we don't learn to control it, we're likely to kill off much of humanity, destroy civilization, and start all over again as hunter/gatherers.
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    There is a hell of a lot more problem with the OP than simply that I "don't like what someone says." The OP is looking for an excuse to attack Jews, irrespective of whether it violates a PH rule.
    No. You wave the anti-semite card every chance you get while conveniently ignoring op's looking for an excuse to attack christians. Other people are beginning to see your hypocrisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Human beings lived in small, mostly related, hunter gatherer societies for thousands of years. During that time, anyone who was different, as in coming from a neighboring tribe, was seen as an enemy.

    Other humans, then, who spoke differently, had different religious beliefs, looked different, were the enemy. Only those who had similar beliefs, spoke our language, and were the same as us were to be trusted.

    The Jews were different. So were homosexuals, Gypsies, anyone, in short, who was not the same as the Master Race, i.e., us.

    Therefore, they were the enemy, and were to be killed. Hence, the holocaust.

    God had nothing to do with it. It was human evolution that led to the holocaust.

    That same mentality still exists, by the way, in today's world. If we don't learn to control it, we're likely to kill off much of humanity, destroy civilization, and start all over again as hunter/gatherers.
    It is eugenics that led to the holocaust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    There is a hell of a lot more problem with the OP than simply that I "don't like what someone says." The OP is looking for an excuse to attack Jews, irrespective of whether it violates a PH rule.
    Truly antisemtic statements do not break a PH rule?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Human beings lived in small, mostly related, hunter gatherer societies for thousands of years. During that time, anyone who was different, as in coming from a neighboring tribe, was seen as an enemy.

    Other humans, then, who spoke differently, had different religious beliefs, looked different, were the enemy. Only those who had similar beliefs, spoke our language, and were the same as us were to be trusted.

    The Jews were different. So were homosexuals, Gypsies, anyone, in short, who was not the same as the Master Race, i.e., us.

    Therefore, they were the enemy, and were to be killed. Hence, the holocaust.

    God had nothing to do with it. It was human evolution that led to the holocaust.

    That same mentality still exists, by the way, in today's world. If we don't learn to control it, we're likely to kill off much of humanity, destroy civilization, and start all over again as hunter/gatherers.
    You're not understanding the question being based on Jewish scholars looking for reasons why this happened to people with whom God had made a covenant to provide divine protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    No. You wave the anti-semite card every chance you get...
    I call out antisemitism when I see it.

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    ... while conveniently ignoring op's looking for an excuse to attack christians.
    And how exactly would that be? The thread topic, and the OP, is about Jews; he only tangentially mentions Catholics.

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    Other people are beginning to see your hypocrisy.
    The hypocrisy is all yours. Your hatred, on the other hand, is not unique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    Truly antisemtic statements do not break a PH rule?
    I said nothing of the kind. I said, "The OP is looking for an excuse to attack jews, irrespective of whether it violates a PH rule."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I call out antisemitism when I see it.
    Really? I thought it was a fake claim. And yes, I posted my reason for thinking it is a false claim.

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    And how exactly would that be? The thread topic, and the OP, is about Jews; he only tangentially mentions Catholics.
    You are not aware of op's attacking christians in this section?

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    The hypocrisy is all yours.
    As I recall, you were happily mocking christians for 418 pages in another thread.

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    Your hatred, on the other hand, is not unique.
    Now you are trying to portray yourself as a whiny victim of anti-semitism?

    Scorn is more apt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    Really? I thought it was a fake claim. And yes, I posted my reason for thinking it is a false claim.
    There might be false claims of antisemitism. I have not made one.

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    You are not aware of op's attacking christians in this section?
    I read the OP. Are you talking about another thread?

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    As I recall, you were happily mocking christians for 418 pages in another thread.
    False. First of all, I mocked nothing for 418 pages; there are quite some others involved. Second of all, the only mocking there is of FALSE claims of persecution, which undermine the real ones. Interestingly, hardly anyone posts threads about the real thing; it's all whining about not being able to persecute or punish other people with religion as the excuse. You post something about real persecution, and I will join in condemning it, as will others.

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    Now you are trying to portray yourself as a whiny victim of anti-semitism?
    No, just identifying you as harboring a deep, personal hatred for some reason of someone on the internet. It is you who is doing all the whining, here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    There might be false claims of antisemitism. I have not made one.
    You said this op is an anti-semitic attack. While the premise is ridiculous, it is neither anti-semitic nor an attack.

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    I read the OP. Are you talking about another thread?
    Yes.

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    False. First of all, I mocked nothing for 418 pages; there are quite some others involved.
    This is irrelevant and you know it. The fact is, the mocking lasted for 418 pages and you were actively part of it.

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    Second of all, the only mocking there is of FALSE claims of persecution, which undermine the real ones.
    Can you really claim you are mocking false claims if you do not show how they are false?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Interestingly, hardly anyone posts threads about the real thing; it's all whining about not being able to persecute or punish other people with religion as the excuse. You post something about real persecution, and I will join in condemning it, as will others.
    The hypocrisy is astounding!

    How, exactly do you define real persecution, hmmmm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    No, just identifying you as harboring a deep, personal hatred for some reason of someone on the internet. It is you who is doing all the whining, here.
    Calling me an anti-semite doesn't qualify as offensive to you?

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