Thread: Social libertarians- all gays and trannies?

There are quite a few of libertarians on this board. When I speak of being socially libertarian, I mean condoning policies that lessens the restrictions on what people are allowed to do in a social sense, like burning flags, walking around naked, smoking pot, males putting on make-up, shaving, women not wearing scarf, etc.

Now, you might all have heard the argument; christian-conservatives strongly opposing homosexuals are closeted homosexuals themselves who are in denial of their own desires and working in the opposite direction to prove to themselves and the world around that they are in fact straight.

But what about libertarians? Think about this argument. I don't smoke pot. I don't put on make-up or feel like walking around in the buff. I can find numerous other things to burn than flags. So why would I support people's right to do such acts, that aren't directly beneficial to myself?

One explanation might be that I associate with the flag-burners on another level. If I have had my own freedom restricted on other turfs, like say I wanted to drink alcohol in public, and that is against the rules, then I might see more positives in lack of rules and restrictions in general. So libertarian attitudes result from sympathy with the restricted.

So if libertarian attitudes are a function of experience, and not just genes, would that mean that socially libertarian people are all social deviants with bad experiences on some level? I might be shooting myself in the foot here.

Whaddaya think?

lol well when I have asked libertarians why they feel a certain way on other websites, there is normally some sort of personal experience that made them dislike the government. So, I could agree that libertarians want to weaken the government because of their own bad experiences with the government.

That isn't even an illogical reason to believe something, but it would be interesting to know that I am sure that there is less libertarians in Scandanavia, because they have more good experiences with the government and less bad ones.

The strange thing is that those reasons aren't even real facts of what government is, but is just someone's personal experience that may not have much relevance to the issues at hand.

For instance, if I had received undemployment insurance then I may be more willing to have the government regulate my food, because of a good experience with the government.

In the interest of efficiency, I tend to consider anyone who does not support my social and political positions to be a deviant. And if more people were honest, they would admit that they do too.

I'm a flaming homo but im not a libertarian. So that confounds your position a little bit huh Chu chu?

Originally Posted by chu chu rocket

So if libertarian attitudes are a function of experience, and not just genes, would that mean that socially libertarian people are all social deviants with bad experiences on some level? I might be shooting myself in the foot here.

Whaddaya think?

That you should go ahead and tell us what your bad experience with authority was
From what I remember from another thread, it may be about your parents not wanting you to date a certain guy?

Otherwise, your post is very interesting. But it lacks an essential component (in my opinion): there are other political parties that are at least as much concerned with civil liberties than libertarianism (one of the most liberal country in this respect is the Netherlands, a socialist country, where smoking pot, gay marriage and the likes have been legal for a looooong time), so ok libertarians may have had a bad experience about regulations and too much authority, but it doesn't explain why they turned to libertarianism and not another party as concerned with civil liberties.

Does Bob Barr really like to walk around in the nude (very dangerous when working around lawn care equipment and power tools)?

Originally Posted by Bourne

Does Bob Barr really like to walk around in the nude (very dangerous when working around lawn care equipment and power tools)?

Please keep your sick fantasies to yourself, Bourne.

Originally Posted by Defensor

Please keep your sick fantasies to yourself, Bourne.

It's noty a sick fantasy. It was an observation posed in the OP.

There are quite a few of libertarians on this board. When I speak of being socially libertarian, I mean condoning policies that lessens the restrictions on what people are allowed to do in a social sense, like burning flags, walking around naked, smoking pot, males putting on make-up, shaving, women not wearing scarf, etc.

I'm just wondering how common a practice it is for libertards to skulk aroung the neighborhood in the raw?

Originally Posted by Bourne

It's noty a sick fantasy. It was an observation posed in the OP.

Um, there was no mention of anyone in particular in the OP, just generic remarks. You brought a nude Bob Barr into the equation. :jawdrop:

Well on social issues (and those only ) I have to admit libertarians are very spot on. They represent my opinions the best.