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    I am bringing back an old topic I posted on the old forum, because we have new people, and I like the subject.



    Everything in bold is what I originally posted. I'm plagiarizing myself.......I'll kick my own ass later, when I catch me.





    To most people, the word evil is considered a term used to describe people like Hitler, Charles Manson, Ed Gein and George Bush. In other words, people who fall somewhat outside of the accepted norm by committing the violent acts that made them famous. These acts are called evil.



    By using the word evil in this way, the above mentioned people can be separated from the "good" people. They call these people, and their acts, evil, distancing themselves from the rogue creatures who do these terrible acts.



    In this way, they almost consider these newly deemed "evil" people as led by forces unseen. An average human being cannot commit these crimes, so therefore these people are walking on the dark side. What people fail to realize is that these people, who they damn as evil, are the same as anyone else, with one slight difference: Something, maybe a delusional mind, or a desperate need, either real or imagined, is driving them to the acts they later are considered evil for.



    Evil, as an unseen force, does not really exist. Evil is simply a word that we tend to hang on acts we don't want to admit that we too could be guilty of, if the conditions were right.



    The word is used far too often to describe a plethora of acts that anyone could possibly carry out, if there was a need. It is a way of pretending, in a way, that we are above these evil people, and they simply are going to Hell, while we, the normal people, are Heaven bound.



    The truth is, we are the same as these "bad" people. We may be worse, in some ways, because through history we have failed to recognize the true source of some of these peoples true problems. How many people have been put to death for simply having a mental disorder? The Salem witch trials come to mind. How many innocent women were accused of practicing witchcraft and burned at the stake? How terrible it must have been for these women to ponder their fate and be walked to their final punishment. And remember, the people that lit the fires were Christians.



    In that situation, the "good" people turned out to be "evil".



    Evil is simply a concept, used by people to deny some aspects of human behavior.



    Simple as that.



    So.....does evil really exist?

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    You know what's a good book on this subject - "Alone with the devil" famous cases of a courtroom psychiatrist.



    http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...m_Psychiatrist



    Explains the difference between psychosis and sociopathy lots of interesting stuff but easy to read and not boring at all.

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    [quote name='Blueneck' date='18 January 2010 - 07:07 AM' timestamp='1263816420' post='100935']

    You know what's a good book on this subject - "Alone with the devil" famous cases of a courtroom psychiatrist.



    http://www.goodreads...om_Psychiatrist



    Explains the difference between psychosis and sociopathy lots of interesting stuff but easy to read and not boring at all.

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    I'll check it out. I love stuff like that.

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    I do not believe that evil exists as an entity. You can do bad things, but evil isn't "floating around" waiting to happen.

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    Well articulated, Knight.



    No, evil does not exist, and that isn't my opinion. There is no evidence of "evil", only misguided people, mental problems etc etc.



    An exorcism is not valid evidence in a scientific realm.



    To add to the topic, I see the word "evil" being used all the time, usually by people to castigate others, then somehow separate themselves from that person. It's a fear mechanism, because they want to feel and be seen as completely separate from that other person and their actions. People also use the word to feel better about themselves.



    The reality is that given the right circumstances, virtually every living human being has the capacity to do something heinous.

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    [quote name='Davocrat' date='18 January 2010 - 09:05 AM' timestamp='1263823550' post='100962']

    I do not believe that evil exists as an entity. You can do bad things, but evil isn't "floating around" waiting to happen.

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    I think that bulldog is evil.

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    [quote name='Bluegrass' date='18 January 2010 - 09:24 AM' timestamp='1263824651' post='100964']

    Well articulated, Knight.



    No, evil does not exist, and that isn't my opinion. There is no evidence of "evil", only misguided people, mental problems etc etc.



    An exorcism is not valid evidence in a scientific realm.



    To add to the topic, I see the word "evil" being used all the time, usually by people to castigate others, then somehow separate themselves from that person. It's a fear mechanism, because they want to feel and be seen as completely separate from that other person and their actions. People also use the word to feel better about themselves.



    The reality is that given the right circumstances, virtually every living human being has the capacity to do something heinous.

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    That is the underlying point to the whole thing, right there.



    We are all capable of being "evil".

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    [quote name='Mr. Knight' date='18 January 2010 - 09:28 AM' timestamp='1263824922' post='100967']

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    That is the underlying point to the whole thing, right there.



    We are all capable of being "evil".

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    Exactly.



    The delusion of a "moral objectivity" helps people sleep at night. A perceived "moral objectivity" has done humanity more damage than constructiveness.

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    "Evil" is a purely sociological construct. I do not believe that it is possible for an individual in isolation to do anything "evil." Or "good," for that matter.

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    Its like when people say they would never steal. If you were starving....I mean REALLY starving, and you saw a hamburger, just sitting there, of course you are going to grab it. It all depends on needs and causes......We are all far more close to "bad" behavior than we realize.



    That doesn't always make us "bad" people, maybe fucked up, but not evil.

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