You suck scottie!! You know that!! You suck!!!
The point I was trying to make in the other thread was that if the thought of god being eternal is so easily accepted.. Why can't the universe be eternal?? While I realize that most scientists in the field support the Big Bang theory.. I myself have my reservations about it.. The issue I have with the big bang is that it implies the universe has a center and we know where that center is.. Anytime you measure an expanse or hear talk of the universe expanding, it has to expand from a certian point.. The kicker to all this is, unless we are in that center, there would be no way to tell if the universe is actually expanding.. Anywhere off center, and some bodies will appear to be moving toward us, away from us, and simply one side or the other..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe
Many will say that is how big our universe is.. But what some miss is the word observable.. That is the size of the universe we can see with our current sensor technology.. The universe can be a billions times larger, we simply can't see it.. Light becomes to faint for us to detect.. But into those terms and sizes, the big bang simply, at least in my opinion becomes more or less impossible.. We are basing our judgements on the universe in what could argueable be 1/billionth of the universe.. It would be like making judgements on the ocean will only looking at a single tide pool.. There is more about the universe that we don't know than what we do know.. Let's face it, science is still more or less trying to understand gravity in the universe.. Blackholes and how they work.. There is so much we don't know..
As for creation?? Myself, I believe the universe is eternal.. It has always been there and always will be there.. There is nothing to say that it was created by anything or that it needs to be created.. Man for his own piece of mind requires a beginning and and end.. It isn't chance that the bible was written in those terms.. That is how our minds work.. But that doesn't always make it so...