Thread: Religious Try to "Outpopulate" Each Other

Originally Posted by The Man

See my post above.

I wish Russian nationalists well. As for Pushkin, so what? It's an interesting factoid and I did not know that so thanks.

Originally Posted by The Man

You did a poll?

By the way, how do you define a "European"?

You are like many Russian nationalists I know. They talk about a "white Russia". But they do not know that Russia's greatest poet, Aleksandr Pushkin

was 1/3 black African. His grandfather was a black servant given as a present to Tsar Peter the Great by some foreign monarch or other.
Abram Petrovich Gannibal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Later, for many years of devoted, loyal service and friendship, the Tsar rewarded him with freedom, a noble title, and a Russian woman for a wife

He named his forst son Pyotr (Peter) in honor of the Tsar. A more notable offspring of his was Ivan Gannibal
Ivan Gannibal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Famous military leader, Pushkin's great uncle.

You think Europe does not have such things in its history? Ha!

You do offer an interesting perspective on things and I love the photos.

Originally Posted by Mister D

I wish Russian nationalists well. As for Pushkin, so what? It's an interesting factoid and I did not know that so thanks.

I do not. Had to go fist-to-fist with far too many, moving to Moscow from Northern Caucasus, with partial Caucasian ancestry and darker complexion then your average Slavic. Those that I do respect are from DPNI, aka Movement Against Illegal Immigration. They are not against ethnic minorities native to Russia, or even against those migrants who come in legally and work for a living and pay taxes. They are only against illegal immigrants. I do not like illegals either. Or, rather, I do not like the consequences of them: decreasing slaries and loss of jobs for locals; rising crime levels as some illegals themselves lose jobs (as happened in economic downturn in 2008) and have no choice but to turn to stealing and mugging to survive.

Russian government banned the DPNI recently... I think it was uncalled for, myself.

Originally Posted by Babba

You do offer an interesting perspective on things and I love the photos.

History has always been my favorite subject

Originally Posted by The Man

I do not. Had to go fist-to-fist with far too many, moving to Moscow from Northern Caucasus, with partial Caucasian ancestry and darker complexion then your average Slavic. Those that I do respect are from DPNI, aka Movement Against Illegal Immigration. They are not against ethnic minorities native to Russia, or even against those migrants who come in legally and work for a living and pay taxes. They are only against illegal immigrants. I do not like illegals either. Or, rather, I do not like the consequences of them: decreasing slaries and loss of jobs for locals; rising crime levels as some illegals themselves lose jobs (as happened in economic downturn in 2008) and have no choice but to turn to stealing and mugging to survive.

Russian government banned the DPNI recently... I think it was uncalled for, myself.

For the record, I do not support thuggery or hostility to historical minorities.

Originally Posted by freecell

HOW? They can have kids yes but not all Christians.

They will raise them as Christian.

Originally Posted by Mister D

We aren't talking about the world. We're talking about Europe. Most Europeans want a Europe populated by Europeans. Let a thousand flowers bloom but each in his own pot.

What makes you think that Muslims aren't European? If they live in Europe, they are European.

Originally Posted by Babba

You do offer an interesting perspective on things and I love the photos.

I agree! @The Man makes great threads and posts.

Originally Posted by Mister D

For the record, I do not support thuggery or hostility to historical minorities.

Well, truth be told, there are legitimate reasons we from NC are often disliked in other parts of Russia. Our boys... sometimes behave in ways that, shall we say, provoke hostility.

All the gangster crap

"Black Eagles" in Moscow, and others. This is why those of North Caucasian heritage are stereotyped as criminals, drug dealers, gangsters, violent and ruthless people...

That motto, "Who is not with us is under us"

young Caucasians tattoo that, and wear T-shirts like this too.

It is arrogance. Thing is, most Caucasians who come to Moscow are our own "Golden Youth", just like in other parts of Russia, children of rich and powerful. What most Moscow people do not understand is, those guys are as hated back home as they are in the capital. If they tried to act in the mountains the way they do in Moscow, drinking, taking narctotics, grabbing girls, they would be killed. They are a disgrace, really, to their people.

Some parties exploit all the inter-ethnic tensions too, like Vladimir Zhirinovsky and his Liberal-Democrats (a joke of a name for a party founded by and full of "former" KGB agents). They are running in Duma (Parliament) Elections soon under the platform "For the [ethnic] Russians!"


Playing with fire, if you ask me. Back in December, there already were inter-ethnic riots in Moscow. Zhirinovsky wants a repeat of that?

Originally Posted by freecell

You can't deliver faith. I don't understand the Vatican

Yep, but loyalty is still largely a function of birth....