Thread: Religious Try to "Outpopulate" Each Other

Originally Posted by cwalenta99

Yep, but loyalty is still largely a function of birth....

Really, how many here on these boards were raised in a Church and now don't believe? You can't push faith into another person.

Originally Posted by freecell

Really, how many here on these boards were raised in a Church and now don't believe? You can't push faith into another person.

and they're all going to be out shopping on December 24th.....they'll take nominal Christians and Cafeteria Catholics....

Originally Posted by freecell

Really, how many here on these boards were raised in a Church and now don't believe? You can't push faith into another person.

You can push it on others. It's the people like me who've had it pushed on us that end up leaving. If you really want your children to stay Christian, you have to act more Christ-like. In the Buddhist community, the children are never forced to learn about meditation. They see their parents do it and they see for themselves how it affects their parent's minds for the better.

Pushing religion on kids is wrong. Teaching values so the child can function well in community is needed whether the family is religious or not.

Originally Posted by sky writer

You are completely ridiculous if YOU think that Christians SHOULD breed in order to dominate Europe. The "God War" is absurd. It's imperialism.

No. You are ridiculous to presume the measures to mitigate population collapse is a conspiracy to take over the world. Issues concerning population collapse is more pertinent to economics than that silly opinion of yours.

Originally Posted by kingrat

No. You are ridiculous to presume the measures to mitigate population collapse is a conspiracy to take over the world. Issues concerning population collapse is more pertinent to economics than that silly opinion of yours.

One group of people will replace another group. How is that a collapse? And what does it have to do with economics?

When your philosophical opponent wants to kill his own, it makes sense to get busy.

Originally Posted by sky writer

I see. You're in favoring of the Christians taking over Europe? What is it about dominating the world you're so into?

Christians are not required to engage in bio-sociological warfare by raising "Christian" children to combat the social movements of other religions. It's not Biblical and it's dumb. Jesus didn't ask the disciples to breed in order to expand the Kingdom of God.

Shame on you for insinuating that Muslim babies are a "problem." They aren't. Muslim babies, just like all other children, are precious is His sight.

It is the duty of a Christian to glorify God - not to overwhelm other faiths. It's none of your business how many children other people have.

This opinion demonstrates unbelievable ignorance on your part.

The era of western colonialism has more to do with the white man's greed than the white man's religion. Curiously enough, catholics alone comprise nearly one billion of the world's population and yet, I have yet to see a modern catholic theocracy (other than that itty bitty territory occupied by the vatican).

The issue of population decline is intimately related to ECONOMIC REALITIES, first, and CULTURAL DIVERSITY, second. These are things an average person would be concerned with regardless of religion.

I have nothing against muslims.

I have something against europe falling to economic hard times and dragging the rest of the world economies with it.

I have something against the decline of european culture and what it has to offer to the world.

Originally Posted by Babba

One group of people will replace another group. How is that a collapse? And what does it have to do with economics?

You can't see how an ageing population is an economic problem?????

Originally Posted by sky writer

They don't have the sense to believe in family planning.

Eh?

The entire catholic encyclical humanae vitae is about family planning within the context of human dignity. The catholic church spends a lot of its own time, money, and manpower teaching about fertility awareness -- which is a helluva lot more satisfying than strapping on a condom or inserting an iud -- without those nasty side-effects associated with artificial contraception.

Duh?

Originally Posted by Babba

So what if Western Civilization is evolving into something else? That's perfectly normal and natural. Nothing ever stays the same forever.

Its not so much as evolution but DIVERSITY which is the problem. The cultures that have contributed so much to modern life and thought -- american, european, chinese and japanese -- are dying. I have no doubt that other cultures have something to offer -- but it must do so within a diverse milieu.