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    is there an objective morality?

    Is there an objective morality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    Is there an objective morality?
    Define objective.

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    External. Common. Not dependent on any one individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    External. Common. Not dependent on any one individual.
    I think not, It depends on how I see the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    Is there an objective morality?
    Yes

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    it is so easy to want IT to be, WE want IT to be, But when We look at the world and all the multitudes of horrible horrible actions going on -how could there be ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I think not, It depends on how I see the world
    It is wrong to drown a baby in a tub for entertainment

    Even one who defends subjectivism or relativism can't argue a statement like this one. And if this is an universal truth then it means objectively ethical truths exist whether or not we have the intelectual tools or evidence to discover them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    Is there an objective morality?
    Nope, its purely subjective. EVerybody has different ideas of what is moral or immoral. There are situations where, for example, murder is immoral to most but could be moral as if its done in war, in self defense, etc.

    Religious people tend to claim its is objective, that god determine morality, yet people of the same religion , and even the same sect of a religion can't agree on what is or is not moral, therefore its subjective. And there is no proof of a god and what that god thinks is moral. Because even the so called word of god in texts people can't agree on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ticia View Post
    It is wrong to drown a baby in a tub for entertainment

    Even one who defends subjectivism or relativism can't argue a statement like this one. And if this is an universal truth then it means objectively ethical truths exist whether or not we have the intelectual tools or evidence to discover them.
    do you see how silly it is to even begin a conversation with that proposition ?

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    do you see how silly it is to even begin a conversation with that proposition ?
    Why?
    Are there visions of the world that will refute that proposition?

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