Thread: US Catholic Nuns gone rogue

Catholic Nun Group Rejects Vatican Report That Found Them Afoul Of Doctrine :: NPR June 1, 2012
The board of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR), which represents most nuns in the United States, rejected a report from the Vatican that found they were running afoul of church doctrine. The report, which among other things expressed concerned about the group's "radical feminism," was issued in April and ruled that an American archbishop would bring the nuns back in line.
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hah! good for the nuns.. time for open revolt against the Vatican male hierarchy. Apparently Rome is pissed at the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, an umbrella group representing most of America's 55,000 nuns. The LCWR is in trouble with the Vatican because they have not been vocal enough in their opposition to gay marriage, abortion, and women's ordination.

In the timeline of history, Catholicism takes up about 5 thousand years.
Is it a fad ?

Those crazy nuns!

Originally Posted by Tedminator

Catholic Nun Group Rejects Vatican Report That Found Them Afoul Of Doctrine :: NPR June 1, 2012
The board of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR), which represents most nuns in the United States, rejected a report from the Vatican that found they were running afoul of church doctrine. The report, which among other things expressed concerned about the group's "radical feminism," was issued in April and ruled that an American archbishop would bring the nuns back in line.
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hah! good for the nuns.. time for open revolt against the Vatican male hierarchy. Apparently Rome is pissed at the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, an umbrella group representing most of America's 55,000 nuns. The LCWR is in trouble with the Vatican because they have not been vocal enough in their opposition to gay marriage, abortion, and women's ordination.

I agree, Ted, good on them! Also, maybe they should just recharter? I don't see why it's such a big deal if they're not Vatican-chartered, but rather a Catholic non-profit?

CBS News reports that this is not the "most dramatic" path the group could have followed.

"There had been internal calls for the LCWR to disband as a Vatican-chartered organization and to regroup later as a Catholic nonprofit organization," CBS reports. "At the same time, this is not quite the prayerful discussion the Vatican had ordered the nuns to begin with a group of U.S. Bishops."

Since the Vatican's reprimand, the nuns have received an outpouring of support, including candlelight vigils that happened across the country this week.

Originally Posted by jackalope

I agree, Ted, good on them! Also, maybe they should just recharter? I don't see why it's such a big deal if they're not Vatican-chartered, but rather a Catholic non-profit?

Was so glad to hear this.

In related news, several hundred Mormons walked in Salt Lake City's gay pride parade, too.

I'm Christian and my church has been officially open minded on these issue since I was a toddler. It's ridiculous to sit quietly while your church leaders spout off hate and tell you you're not faithful enough to dogma if you disagree with them.

These ladies wake up every day and deal with the human wreckage the rest of us ignore. They care for their neighbors and their neighjborhoods, sleeves rolled up and soup spoon in hand... while the fat, greasy parasites in the Vatican lounge in unfathomable luxury and wealth they've conned out of some of the poorest people on Earth. They're disgusting and these women put them to shame.

When a clergyman stands up all red-faced and talks about who they are superior to, they are expressing their human opinion, not the word of God. There's no reason the front line workers, who actually deal with real human beings in their work, shouldn't correct their church when it's wrong.

Bravo ladies. Once this issue is settled I hope your next move is demanding the right to keep the job and calling, but also get fucked so well your habbit uncurls and enjoy God's gifts of spouses and children.

This is one salvo in a long battle over the status of nuns in the US. All over our country nuns serve as social workers and teachers and are engaged in their communities in all sorts of ways that serve Christ and bring honor to the Church. This pope, starting in his previous position as Grand Inquisitor (that was actually his title) wants them to return to their medieval status: he wants them to wear habits all the time, be tied to communal living with other nuns, and arrange their lives around prayer disciplines rather than the service and good works. Kind of retrograde and foolish, if you ask me.

On the other hand, the nun's group we're talking about is pretty progressive in its orientation. If one is a conservative, they might seem objectionable. Take a look at the "Resolutions to Action" recently passed by the LCWR:

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Originally Posted by Rasselas

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On the other hand, the nun's group we're talking about is pretty progressive in its orientation. If one is a conservative, they might seem objectionable. Take a look at the "Resolutions to Action" recently passed by the LCWR:
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Saw a story on the conflicting beliefs of American nuns and American bishops not too long ago. The nuns, as a group, tend to be progressive. And the bishops, as a group, tend to be conservative.

They didn't say what priests tended to be, though. I remember being curious about that.

Originally Posted by jackalope

Saw a story on the conflicting beliefs of American nuns and American bishops not too long ago. The nuns, as a group, tend to be progressive. And the bishops, as a group, tend to be conservative.

They didn't say what priests tended to be, though. I remember being curious about that.

Wait, wait, don't tell me!

Regressive?

Originally Posted by Steam Heat

Wait, wait, don't tell me!

Regressive?

Maybe not. When I lived in rural Kentucky, in a county of 30K persons and 32 Baptist churches, the local priest (the one Catholic parish) was probably the most liberal person in the county, save his stance on abortion.

Originally Posted by Rasselas

Maybe not. When I lived in rural Kentucky, in a county of 30K persons and 32 Baptist churches, the local priest (the one Catholic parish) was probably the most liberal person in the county, save his stance on abortion.

That's interesting, and also my impression in many cases, which is why in my earlier comment I noted that they didn't characterize how the priesthood leaned, and I was curious.